Is this PCT enough?

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 02:44 AM

My current cycle:

Sus 250 once a week
Test Prop 40mg ed
Stanazol 60mg ed
HGH 0.7mcg ed
Cytomel T3/T4 (250mcg, 250, 250, 200, 200, 200, 100, 100, 100, 100, one week off, repeat)

PCT: Nolvadex (40, 40, 20, 20)

Never had any issues with gyno during or after cycles with Nolva but first time on sus. Is Nolva enough for this cycle?

Stats: 34, 6.1", 194, 12%

**Critical Mass** · 10-04-2009, 03:53 AM

I think it looks good. Maybe throw in clomid,but not needed. I recover well with nolva only. How many weeks are you running?

**thai-lan** · 10-04-2009, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

My current cycle:

Sus 250 once a week
Test Prop 40mg ed
Stanazol 60mg ed
HGH 0.7mcg ed
Cytomel T3/T4 (250mcg, 250, 250, 200, 200, 200, 100, 100, 100, 100, one week off, repeat)

PCT: Nolvadex (40, 40, 40, 20, 20, 20)

Never had any issues with gyno during or after cycles with Nolva but first time on sus. Is Nolva enough for this cycle?

Stats: 34, 6.1", 194, 12%

u know ur meant to shoot sus EVERYDAY or EVERY OTHER DAY not once a week, ur either going to run it ed/eod or cut it and up the test p dose .
Unstable blood levels cause gyno , dont think u want that shit

nolvadex only pct isnt good , u should add clomid to your pct and 6weeks of pct is too long . Whats the reason u want to run it like that?
the usual protocol is 4weeksand 40 20 20 20

**marcus300** · 10-04-2009, 04:06 AM

Your cycle is awfull,

Its hard to say if your pct is enough or not, guess the only way to find out is to run it, but i'd rather make sure with a basic pct like clomid and nolva but i do know plenty of guys who run just nolva with great effects.

**dec11** · 10-04-2009, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

u know ur meant to shoot sus EVERYDAY or EVERY OTHER DAY not once a week, ur either going to run it ed/eod or cut it and up the test p dose .
Unstable blood levels cause gyno , dont think u want that shit

nolvadex only pct isnt good , u should add clomid to your pct and 6weeks of pct is too long . Whats the reason u want to run it like that?
the usual protocol is 4weeksand 40 20 20 20

sust can be effectively run e3d aswell

**thai-lan** · 10-04-2009, 06:31 AM

says who?

**thai-lan** · 10-04-2009, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

sust can be effectively run e3d aswell

says who?

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

u know ur meant to shoot sus EVERYDAY or EVERY OTHER DAY not once a week, ur either going to run it ed/eod or cut it and up the test p dose .
Unstable blood levels cause gyno , dont think u want that shit

nolvadex only pct isnt good , u should add clomid to your pct and 6weeks of pct is too long . Whats the reason u want to run it like that?
the usual protocol is 4weeksand 40 20 20 20

Just runing 250 sus and 280 test prop a week to cover muscle loss due to T3. This is not a gaining mass cycle.

Besides, are you suggesting that I should take 250mg sus ed or eod? Isnt that alot? or do you ean to break it down to small doses and do it ed? Sustanon has 15 to 18 days half life so weekly injection has same effct. (was told by the Dr who prescribed it to me for weekly injection)

Also Nolvadex cycle is 4 weeks, that was a typo, i fixed it.

Thanks everyone fr your feedback, i keep going on Nolva.

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Your cycle is awfull,

Its hard to say if your pct is enough or not, guess the only way to find out is to run it, but i'd rather make sure with a basic pct like clomid and nolva but i do know plenty of guys who run just nolva with great effects.

Hey Marcus, what do you recommend to be changed in the cycle? Im trying to get under 10%bf (diet is set). Already seeing change with T3 but dont wanna lose muscle. Thanks

**TITANIUM** · 10-04-2009, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Your cycle is awfull,

Its hard to say if your pct is enough or not, guess the only way to find out is to run it, but i'd rather make sure with a basic pct like clomid and nolva but i do know plenty of guys who run just nolva with great effects.

I'm with Marcus on this one.

Strange cycle. And to keep muscle loss from T3?

Different approach is needed.

T

**TITANIUM** · 10-04-2009, 07:27 AM

What about winny or EQ?

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

What about winny or EQ?

Winny is on the list (Stanazol), cant get EQ in Aus.

T3 will burn your fat/muscle andything it can to produce energy. Senior members might want to confirm this. Hence I was told t take some test to cover muscle loss.

T3 is very strong, i already can see change around my abs.

**marcus300** · 10-04-2009, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

Hey Marcus, what do you recommend to be changed in the cycle? Im trying to get under 10%bf (diet is set). Already seeing change with T3 but dont wanna lose muscle. Thanks

I think in most case's you dont have to run gear to cut BF IMHO, I do understand running some Test along side the t3 to stop the catabolic effect of the t3 but why run 1 x 250mgs of sus per wk? why not just stick with the prop?

Sus was introduce for the treatment of HRT and can be injected once per wk for HRT issues but its well known the fluctuation of hormones can cause problems, if your just running the test to stop the catabolic effects of the t3the prop will be fine and i dont see any reason why to add the sus when it can lead to more sides.

**TITANIUM** · 10-04-2009, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

Winny is on the list (Stanazol), cant get EQ in Aus.

T3 will burn your fat/muscle andything it can to produce energy. Senior members might want to confirm this. Hence I was told t take some test to cover muscle loss.

T3 is very strong, i already can see change around my abs.

Yes, agreed. The T3 will do this.

That's not the question I was debating.

Why not Just run the stanzol with the prop?

And the T3?

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 07:49 AM

Thanks Marcus and Titanium, Since I never used sus before, I thought it will also be beneficial to this cycle but im on my first week so i used one vial, can i just drop it and increase prop? Cheers

**TITANIUM** · 10-04-2009, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

Thanks Marcus and Titanium, Since I never used sus before, I thought it will also be beneficial to this cycle but im on my first week so i used one vial, can i just drop it and increase prop? Cheers

Yes.

Best

T

**marcus300** · 10-04-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

Yes.

Best

T

Yes do that, but you dont have to go mad with dosages if your just using it for counter act the catabolic effect of the t3, keep them low to moderate!

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 08:04 AM

ok thanks guys.

So on the other note, what i run the sus that i have now in future cycle with? Can i start it with 40mg ed dbol for the first 4 weeks and go solo for 10 weeks? Whats the best working stack for sus IYO?

**TITANIUM** · 10-04-2009, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

ok thanks guys.

So on the other note, what i run the sus that i have now in future cycle with? Can i start it with 40mg ed dbol for the first 4 weeks and go solo for 10 weeks? Whats the best working stack for sus IYO?

Yes, sust is stack friendly. Save it.

Yes, 40 mgs D-bol works great for a kicker with sust.

10 to 12 wks is fine.

Sust can be run in conjuction with alot of AAS.

It's just the 4 esters that set it apart from regular test.(say E)

Best

T

**marcus300** · 10-04-2009, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

ok thanks guys.

So on the other note, what i run the sus that i have now in future cycle with? Can i start it with 40mg ed dbol for the first 4 weeks and go solo for 10 weeks? Whats the best working stack for sus IYO?

Any testosterone is good to go, depending on the amount of sus your planning on taking would depend on the timing of the injections and if your one of those guys who suffer sides due to unstable blood levels, but sus and dbol are good to go.

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 08:12 AM

Thanks guys, really appreciate the advice. Cheers

**thai-lan** · 10-04-2009, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

Just runing 250 sus and 280 test prop a week to cover muscle loss due to T3. This is not a gaining mass cycle.

Besides, are you suggesting that I should take 250mg sus ed or eod? Isnt that alot? or do you ean to break it down to small doses and do it ed? Sustanon has 15 to 18 days half life so weekly injection has same effct. (was told by the Dr who prescribed it to me for weekly injection)

Also Nolvadex cycle is 4 weeks, that was a type, i fixed it.

Thanks everyone fr your feedback, i keep going on Nolva.

what i meant was 250mg / week sustanon wont do much and ud probaly get unstable blood levels.

i didnt mean that you should be shooting 250mg/ed or eod i meant u should split up the dose and shoot it ed/eod but like i said 250/w sus wont do much tho you are running test p along with it , it might actually be a good cycle

and one more thing ive heard about Docs perscribing test e/c to shoot once a week but not sus....

so if i were u , i would cut the sus( Or shoot it ed/eod) or/and up the dose of test p ( if u cut the sus). i think 350mg/w is perfect dose for your needs.

**dec11** · 10-04-2009, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

says who?

says me and quite alot of others on here

**syd-bloke** · 10-04-2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

what i meant was 250mg / week sustanon wont do much and ud probaly get unstable blood levels.

i didnt mean that you should be shooting 250mg/ed or eod i meant u should split up the dose and shoot it ed/eod but like i said 250/w sus wont do much tho you are running test p along with it , it might actually be a good cycle

and one more thing ive heard about Docs perscribing test e/c to shoot once a week but not sus....

so if i were u , i would cut the sus( Or shoot it ed/eod) or/and up the dose of test p ( if u cut the sus). i think 350mg/w is perfect dose for your needs.

Sus 250 comes in Ampule form, once i break the glass tip, i have to use all, it cant be stored. What do you suggest?