Winstrol

**tm123** · 10-07-2009, 06:22 PM

So I'm currently on HRT, and the doctor has me on 200mg of test per week, 1000 units of HCG per week, and 0.5mg arimidex 2x per week. He said I should stay on this indefinitely, which is fine with me.

He's willing to work with me, and prescribed some winstrol , which I was planning on taking for 10 weeks at 50 mg 3x / week. I've heard that winstrol really depresses natural test production, so I was wondering if the HCG will take care of that, or if I should bump up the testosterone a little while I'm on the winstrol. Thoughts? Thanks very much.

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 06:27 PM

Just run the winstrol . You are on HRT your Test levels will not be effected.

Well...your free test will be because oral winny helps free up SHBG so you'll have more free Test.

Your HPTA is shutdown right now. Your producing a little testosterone in your testes from the HCG . Your main source of test is from the 200mg of Test.

The winny only suppresses natural test production..You dont have this going on in your body right now...

**Big** · 10-07-2009, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by tm123

So I'm currently on HRT, and the doctor has me on 200mg of test per week, 1000 units of HCG per week, and 0.5mg arimidex 2x per week. He said I should stay on this indefinitely, which is fine with me.

He's willing to work with me, and prescribed some winstrol, which I was planning on taking for 10 weeks at 50 mg 3x / week. I've heard that winstrol really depresses natural test production, so I was wondering if the HCG will take care of that, or if I should bump up the testosterone a little while I'm on the winstrol. Thoughts? Thanks very much.

if you're on 200mg/week test your natural test production is already suppressed. winny should be used every day though.
what are your stats and what is the reason for the winny?

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by tm123

So I'm currently on HRT, and the doctor has me on 200mg of test per week, 1000 units of HCG per week, and 0.5mg arimidex 2x per week. He said I should stay on this indefinitely, which is fine with me.

He's willing to work with me, and prescribed some winstrol , which I was planning on taking for 10 weeks at 50 mg 3x / week. I've heard that winstrol really depresses natural test production, so I was wondering if the HCG will take care of that, or if I should bump up the testosterone a little while I'm on the winstrol. Thoughts? Thanks very much.

The test itself would suppress natty test.

The Winny is something ales all together.

What are your goals for running the Winny?

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:30 PM

Dam BIG your fast!!!

I have to learn to type faster!!!

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 06:30 PM

Also, you should do the winstrol daily and not 3 times a week. When taking it daily its also best to split the dose up morning and night to keep stable blood levels.

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by ythrashin

Just run the winstrol. You are on HRT your Test levels will not be effected.

Well...your free test will be because oral winny helps free up SHBG so you'll have more free Test.

Your HPTA is shutdown right now. Your producing a little testosterone in your testes from the HCG . Your main source of test is from the 200mg of Test.

The winny only suppresses natural test production..You dont have this going on in your body right now...

What????

T

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

What????

T

What are you confused about?

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by ythrashin

What are you confused about?

I'm not confused.

If he is taking test, then his natty test is suppressed.

We need to break the post down one thing at a time.

This way the OP does not get confused.

T

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 06:37 PM

I thought I explained it well so it was easily understood...read the hole post...

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by ythrashin

I thought I explained it well so it was easily understood...

You got the winny correct.

The natty test suppression reply was incorrect.

The reason he is running a cutting compound is what I am curious about.

And , most doctors won't prescribe such protocol, unless you are lucky.

But, let's see what the OP has to say.

T

**Big** · 10-07-2009, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

You got the winny correct.

The natty test suppression reply was incorrect.

The reason he is running a cutting compound is what I am curious about.

And , most doctors won't prescribe such protocol, unless you are lucky.

But, let's see what the OP has to say.

T

I'm pretty sure he meant suppression of natty test isn't a concern on hrt. I think we all said almost the same thing.

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:46 PM

tm123-What are your goals???

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I'm pretty sure he meant suppression of natty test isn't a concern on hrt. I think we all said almost the same thing.

LOL... I thought so too.

Maybe the DOC is just trying to free up some Test by lowering SHBG.

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by ythrashin

LOL... I thought so too.

Maybe the DOC is just trying to free up some Test by lowering SHBG.

OK, we are all on the same page.

Waiting for the OP to chime in.

**tm123** · 10-07-2009, 07:16 PM

Well I've been going through an anti aging type place and to be honest, I'm pretty much convinced that they'll give me whatever I want. I could be wrong about that, but that's just my gut feeling. I'm 42 and my original bloodwork did come back really low for test- barely in the normal range. Plus I had been using test cream for about a year with no real effect, so they didn't have any problem giving me a relatively high dosage of injected testosterone . I've strength trained for years, and over the past 5 years maybe have noticed loss of muscle mass despite increased training volume and intensity. Since taking the testosterone, I've gained about 14 pounds and have made great gains in the weight room so I'm really happy. Anyway, I mentioned that I wanted to lose some fat, so they suggested winstrol . I deal with someone who works at the clinic, not directly with the doctor unless I ask for him directly. So the clinic worker says to take 50 mg of winstrol eod for 10 weeks. So I order it, but when it arrives, it was prescribed at a dosage of 50 mg once weekly. So I know enough to know that taking winnie once per week isn't going to do anything, and now I have 30 mL of prescribed winstrol, so I guess now I'll take advantage of it, but I want to know the best possible way to take it.

Hope that clears some stuff up.

**Big** · 10-07-2009, 07:18 PM

again, stats?
height?
weight?
body fat%?

**tm123** · 10-07-2009, 07:23 PM

Oh sorry.

5'10.5"
199
~21%

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 07:31 PM

What clinic you going through? I'm also with a clinic... If you dont want to post it please email it. My clinic is also generous
with gear.

**Big** · 10-07-2009, 07:31 PM

winny would be a waste at 21%bf.
what's your diet look like?

**ythrashin** · 10-07-2009, 07:39 PM

Really sounds like you need a new HRT rep to me...

**tm123** · 10-07-2009, 07:44 PM

I eat good foods but don't care about how many calories I eat. I'm not looking for huge drops in body fat. If I got down to 14-15% I'd be very happy.

If the winnie would help increase my strength, and/or mass, I'd be happy with that. Are you saying it would do nothing?

Why would I need a new HRT rep? As I said, I'm pretty sure he'll give me anything. I just need to know what to ask for.

**TITANIUM** · 10-07-2009, 08:42 PM

Like previously stated by ythrashin, winny should be pinned ED.

@ 21% bf, I don't think it would be worth it.IMO

Big is the main guy on this post, so your in good hands.

Stats are always needed.

Even if people think they are not applicable to the question being asked.

So, Thank you for giving them.

Best

T

**hankdiesel** · 10-07-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by ythrashin

Just run the winstrol . You are on HRT your Test levels will not be effected.

Well...your free test will be because oral winny helps free up SHBG so you'll have more free Test.

Your HPTA is shutdown right now. Your producing a little testosterone in your testes from the HCG . Your main source of test is from the 200mg of Test.

The winny only suppresses natural test production..You dont have this going on in your body right now...