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    Deca and EQ or Deca and Cyp?

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    first cycle?

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    Yes sir

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    Deca and cyp any day over deca and eq.

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    That does not look like 11.5% bf......

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That does not look like 11.5% bf......
    I haven't check my BF% again in over a month but your right it may be a bit higher. Either way, if you were running a cycle of deca /cyp, how would you run it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camio115 View Post
    I haven't check my BF% again in over a month but your right it may be a bit higher. Either way, if you were running a cycle of deca/cyp, how would you run it?
    I don't think anyone here will reccomend deca on a first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Researcher View Post
    I don't think anyone here will reccomend deca on a first cycle.
    Yeah, that's what I thought too. From what I have been reading on this website it looks like a test only cycle would be considered a novice cycle. If you don't mind me asking, how exactly would you run a test only cycle? I hope I'm not bothering you guys too much :/

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    Test E 500 mg a week. Two 250mg injections a week. For example, Monday morning and Thursday evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Researcher View Post
    Test E 500 mg a week. Two 250mg injections a week. For example, Monday morning and Thursday evening.
    Ok, I will definitely look into this more and do more research. Is there a book I can read that you guys may reccomend?

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    you always should run test in a cycle. ALWAYS

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    Quote Originally Posted by binder View Post
    you always should run test in a cycle. ALWAYS
    My options are EQ or CYP at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camio115 View Post
    My options are EQ or CYP at the moment
    that isn't even a choice, test for a first cycle. forget about the EQ

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    Test only bro, and no book you can find everything you need to know on this site just search any questions and it will have lots of answers for ya!!!

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    I think the following would be suitable for a 1st time cycle:

    Week 1-12: Testosterone Cypionate : Inject 250mg every 3rd day
    Week 1-12: If you want to keep the bloat down, take an anti-estrogen, Aromasin 12.5 mg per day
    Week 1-12: If you want to prevent testicular atrophy, take hCG , about 70iu per day

    After those 12 weeks, you take absolutely nothing for two weeks. Then you do Post Cycle Therapy as follows:

    Clomiphene (Clomid): 100mg per day for 1 week, then 50mg per day for 3 weeks
    Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ): 40mg per day for 1 week, then 20mg per day for 3 weeks

    I did my own first cycle this year, I did 14 weeks of Testosterone Enanthate taking 250mg every 3rd day. The cycle went fine but I got really bloated and one of my balls shrank very small. I just finished my PCT about 3 days ago though, and now I'm fine, my ball is back to normal and my bloat is steadily decreasing. Still though I'm gonna take Aromasin and hCG next time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Researcher View Post
    Test E 500 mg a week. Two 250mg injections a week. For example, Monday morning and Thursday evening.
    yea im finishing this cycle now and am pleased with my gains. I havent had any sides really either

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    yea im finishing this cycle now and am pleased with my gains. I havent had any sides really either
    Thats good to hear how much did you end up gaining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almond View Post
    I think the following would be suitable for a 1st time cycle:

    Week 1-12: Testosterone Cypionate : Inject 250mg every 3rd day
    Week 1-12: If you want to keep the bloat down, take an anti-estrogen, Aromasin 12.5 mg per day
    Week 1-12: If you want to prevent testicular atrophy, take hCG , about 70iu per day

    After those 12 weeks, you take absolutely nothing for two weeks. Then you do Post Cycle Therapy as follows:

    Clomiphene (Clomid): 100mg per day for 1 week, then 50mg per day for 3 weeks
    Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ): 40mg per day for 1 week, then 20mg per day for 3 weeks

    I did my own first cycle this year, I did 14 weeks of Testosterone Enanthate taking 250mg every 3rd day. The cycle went fine but I got really bloated and one of my balls shrank very small. I just finished my PCT about 3 days ago though, and now I'm fine, my ball is back to normal and my bloat is steadily decreasing. Still though I'm gonna take Aromasin and hCG next time around.
    This is exactly what I was looking for! Appreciate the help very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camio115 View Post
    This is exactly what I was looking for! Appreciate the help very much!
    Hopefully you do something like this a nd not a deca /eq cycle. If you were really considering that I think you might have some more research to do before you start cycling.

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