4th Cycle Opinion

[Gaspari1255]

6'3" 253lbs @ 16% bf. This cycle will not start for atleas two more months.

Previous Cycles:

1.) Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test E
2.) Weeks 1-12: 700mg Test E

Weeks 1-10: 600mg Deca
Weeks 1-5: 50mg Dianabol

3.) Weeks 1-12: 300mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-8: 75mg ED Tren A
Weeks 1-4: 30mg ED Superdrol



4th Cycle Idea:

Weeks 1-18: 300mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-15: 600mg EQ
Weeks 1-10: 75mg Tren A Ed
Weeks 13-18: 50mg Winny ED

....I keep a very good sex drive on a low dose of test and I don't think its beneficial to go over 300mg on a cutting cylce. I am TRT (200mg cyp) weekly so PCT is not nessecerey. I will keep some caber on hand as well.

***All opinions welcomed***

[Critical Mass]

EQ?? Thought everybody hated it..but cycle looks good to me atleast. I would probably add the tren at week 8 and run it with the winny since they go so well together. But nothing wrong to use it at the beginning either.

[urbanbody]

I would run the win for 6 weeks. Also not a fan of EQ but I would up dose to 800

[Gaspari1255]

I've actually decided to drop the EQ, thanks for the opinions though.

[ranging1]

yea agree with dropping the eq

if ur cutting last thing u want is the appetite spike from eq

long cycle dont u think? maybe cut it down to 16 weeks?

just think 18 prob just a little to long and IMO prob the last few weeks u wont notice alot of results

how bout run the same dosages u suggested but instead
test cyp 16 weeks
tren act weeks 1-10
winnie 50mg daily week 11-16

prob get just as good results IMO

[PC650]

i would up the test to a least 500mg a week

[Gaspari1255]

yea agree with dropping the eq

if ur cutting last thing u want is the appetite spike from eq

long cycle dont u think? maybe cut it down to 16 weeks?

just think 18 prob just a little to long and IMO prob the last few weeks u wont notice alot of results

how bout run the same dosages u suggested but instead
test cyp 16 weeks
tren act weeks 1-10
winnie 50mg daily week 11-16

prob get just as good results IMO

Thanks... I was actually thinking the same thing, The two extra weeks wouldn't be too beneficial. I only made it that long orignally because EQ is usually a 16 week minimum running. However, I have no desire to use it any more.

[Gaspari1255]

i would up the test to a least 500mg a week

Thought about this also but wouldn't 300mg works just for a cutting cycle? I ran something similar in cycle # 3 and everything seem to work out ok.

[PC650]

honestly diet is really gonna determine if your cutting or bulking.

[Gaspari1255]

honestly diet is really gonna determine if your cutting or bulking.

Much agreed.

I will be carb cycling. 3 days low (150g) and one day high (400g). Fat will stay at about 70g. Cardio 6x a week. No clen or Ephedrine- shit gives me worse sides than actual gear.

[PC650]

if this was my cycle this is how i would go about it
1-16 test c 500mg a week
1-10 tren a 75mg ed
11-18 winnie 50mg ed
i like to run winnie up until my pct.

[PC650]

Much agreed.

I will be carb cycling. 3 days low (150g) and one day high (400g). Fat will stay at about 70g. Cardio 6x a week. No clen or Ephedrine- shit gives me worse sides than actual gear.

i like that , carb cycling is a solid method. i agree with the clen sides. hard to handle sometimes

[PC650]

plus clen will add higher bp while on a cycle not too smart, i like to use clen while on my pct

[ranging1]

Thanks... I was actually thinking the same thing, The two extra weeks wouldn't be too beneficial. I only made it that long orignally because EQ is usually a 16 week minimum running. However, I have no desire to use it any more.

yea so 16 should be more effective

as for PC650 advice id have to disagree with 500mg test and say 300mg is enough, just becuase like u said this is a cutting cycle and i dont c the need to go over a gram of gear in order to drop bf%, tren at 75 daily will do wonders, i think the test should be kept der for ur sex drive and motivation on cycle

agree with PC650 diet will determine ur results, however if thats the case then u shouldnt need 500mg of test

plus test does cause water retention and its not the best thing to have when ur trying to look leaner

as for running winnie, i wouldnt run it longer then 6 weeks, just coz it very liver toxic and after the 5th or 6th week IMO itll loose alot of its desirable effects and anabolism

as for carb cycling, great idea, big fan of it, found it very effective

[PC650]

525mg of tren a week with only 300 mg of test?? have fun with that

[marcus300]

Either Test and tren or Test and winny will be fine for the results your trying to achieve, seeing that your on 200mgs hrt per wk I would reconsider your Test dose for the cycle, go with 400mgs per wk either mixed with tren or the winny.

[ranging1]

Either Test and tren or Test and winny will be fine for the results your trying to achieve, seeing that your on 200mgs hrt per wk I would reconsider your Test dose for the cycle, go with 400mgs per wk either mixed with tren or the winny.

yea agree

[Gaspari1255]

Either Test and tren or Test and winny will be fine for the results your trying to achieve, seeing that your on 200mgs hrt per wk I would reconsider your Test dose for the cycle, go with 400mgs per wk either mixed with tren or the winny.

Thank you..so you think Winny + Tren combo is pretty much over-kill and unnessecerey?

[darkcrayz]

if this was my cycle this is how i would go about it
1-16 test c 500mg a week
1-10 tren a 75mg ed
11-18 winnie 50mg ed
i like to run winnie up until my pct.

newbie question. why only tren for the first 10 weeks?

[urbanbody]

Thank you..so you think Winny + Tren combo is pretty much over-kill and unnessecerey?

Ya its alittle much. I would only run these compounds if you were more experienced and was doing a contest. Keep us updated on what you finalize on.

[ranging1]

newbie question. why only tren for the first 10 weeks?

lol get ur own thread fag

as for ur cycle ******, think u got everything u need now

let us know what cycle your thinking on running now

personaly i agree test and tren are enough

however if u run ur cycle longer then planned, and drop the tren in the last few weeks, i think u could introduce winnie then like u planned