Starting my first cycle tomorrow!!

**dannylatics** · 11-19-2009, 02:52 PM

hi, can't find the original thread so Ill repost it

I am 23, 78 kg and have been working out on and off for 4 years. I also have a physical job lifting heavy pumps all day so my body is constantly working out.

My diet is pretty much spot on and has been for a while now. The only think I struggle with and could use a bit of advice on are breakfasts as I am always ill in the mornings and can not stomach much but obviously need to take in the calaries, any easy eating morning suggestions?

I am starting on 250mg twice a week of Tesosterone Ethenane. Don't want to start too high at first and want to see how my body reacts on its on with Test E first. This will be over a 12 week period and then Ill have a PCT.

My Test E has arrived in 250 mg virals. This may sound stupid but how do i get the liquid out of the viral in my syringe, does the top snap off the viral, then draw from the viral?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

**chuckt12345** · 11-19-2009, 02:57 PM

what your pct?
yea the tops break off

**dannylatics** · 11-19-2009, 03:23 PM

I decided on Nolvadex over Clamid in the end

**chuckt12345** · 11-19-2009, 03:25 PM

shouldnt be any deciding over one another,, you need both

**dannylatics** · 11-19-2009, 03:32 PM

I have red various reports on one over the other and both.

I wasn't too keen on the Clomid as apparantly they have some nasty side effects e.g. can go blind etc

But i value your opinion and will definately take it on board

**Hard.On** · 11-19-2009, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by dannylatics

hi, can't find the original thread so Ill repost it

I am 23, 78 kg and have been working out on and off for 4 years. I also have a physical job lifting heavy pumps all day so my body is constantly working out.

My diet is pretty much spot on and has been for a while now. The only think I struggle with and could use a bit of advice on are breakfasts as I am always ill in the mornings and can not stomach much but obviously need to take in the calaries, any easy eating morning suggestions?

I am starting on 250mg twice a week of Tesosterone Ethenane. Don't want to start too high at first and want to see how my body reacts on its on with Test E first. This will be over a 12 week period and then Ill have a PCT.

My Test E has arrived in 250 mg virals. This may sound stupid but how do i get the liquid out of the viral in my syringe, does the top snap off the viral, then draw from the viral?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

I will be doing a similar cycle in the new year.
I have the same problem of being ill in the mornings.
and sometimes it carries until 11 before i finally get hungry.

If I force myself to drink a protein shake for breakfast, I find that I can eat a proper meal around 9:30.

I wake up at 7:45 btw

**scamp** · 11-19-2009, 08:22 PM

wake up a little earlier than usual and take a morning run, that should make you hungry to eat breakfast....and to get the gear in the syringe pop the plastic saucer lookin thing off the top of the bottle and then jab your syringe into the rubber stopper on the top of the bottle and suck the gear out of the bottle.....also nolvadex and clomid would be your best bet for pct but i know a couple of guys that only take nolvadex for pct and it works fine for them, being that your doing a test only cycle you should be fine for pct to use only nolvadex.....good luck dude, and keep me updated on your progress

**biggerguns** · 11-19-2009, 08:43 PM

You have to score the thin ring area of the ampule with a small teeth serated knife before you try to snap it. Watch your fingers.

**feeldapump89** · 11-19-2009, 09:08 PM

Nolvadex alone does not aid in hpta recovery. You'll need to throw clomid into the equation in order to achieve full recovery.

**Hard.On** · 11-19-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by feeldapump89

Nolvadex alone does not aid in hpta recovery. You'll need to throw clomid into the equation in order to achieve full recovery.

Agreed

**dannylatics** · 11-20-2009, 01:18 PM

Well Ill order some Clomid tomorrow. Thanks for the help

Ill start a log,

Day 1 (Today) - Injected my first ever cycle. 250mg Test Etha. Ordered offline (Anyone know any distributors in the UK, would be a lot easier than ordering from a supplier in Turkey).

Used a 3ml syringe as I like to have more grip on the syringe as its easier to inject. I snapped the top off the viral and injected the Test E.

I tapped the air bubbles out of the shringe and then injected into my glute. Did the usual injecting routine and I was suprised how little pain there was, didn't feel a thing and I am actually looking forward to the next shot (is that wierd?)

Currently weigh 78kg, My aim is around 85 kg over a 12 week period.

Today hit my garage gym hard. Currently using 5 x 5 sets

Today did - 5 x 5 Flat bench press 48 kg
8 x 4 Overhead press 30 kg
8 x 4 preacher curls 20 kg
5 x 5 Deadlift

Diet currently 7.30 - Breakfast cereal and toast (some mornings with feeling ill I may skip this)
10 am - 2 chicken fillets and creatine shake
12.30 2 x chicken with lettuce onions (The works) on a white muffin
3.00 pm - Creatine shake
6.00pm - Pork with rice
9.00 - Pure Orange juice and a nice comfort food e.g. lasagne, spaghettii blogonese.
10.30 - 4 raw eggs ( I know many frown upon this but personally I enjoy the taste)

Ill keep this thread bookmarked and update you from week 2-3.

Wish me luck!!! Any advice on routines and diet ( Im not a big green lover and I work as an engineer so Im always on the go so can't really have a proper shit down meal during the day) greatly appreciated

Thanks

**dannylatics** · 11-20-2009, 01:26 PM

Also my ass is sore where I injected before!!!

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 01:50 PM

You also can consider toremifene for hpta recovery.... Less sides than clomid.

**Rodriguez** · 11-20-2009, 02:03 PM

use arimidex under the whole cycle ! dont use clomid in pct ! , its a too old drug to use ! its soon 2010 come on boys ! lets get into the futere ! nolva will only blok the estrogen !

if you're the type who respond right away on the test and begins to feel sore nipple or nodules would I use Arimidex or aromasin during your whole cycle! Aromasin is a must have for a true bb during cycles ..

it is not because I say nolva is a bad product .. Nolva is super! but imo clomid is something really shit .. ! but I would not prefer nolva or clomid! Just my opinion..

**chuckt12345** · 11-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Rodriguez

use arimidex under the whole cycle ! dont use clomid in pct ! , its a too old drug to use ! its soon 2010 come on boys ! lets get into the futere ! nolva will only blok the estrogen !

if you're the type who respond right away on the test and begins to feel sore nipple or nodules would I use Arimidex or aromasin during your whole cycle! Aromasin is a must have for a true bb during cycles ..

really clomid is goin out of style? you mean the clomid prescribed by doctors across the world for the same purpose?

**Rodriguez** · 11-20-2009, 02:19 PM

I do not quite understand why everyone here is so happy with an old school drug clomid! there are better alternatives today! much much better than clmoid.. it has so many bad side effects so why not use something other than the old school drug ..