Theoretical gains

**matrick** · 11-30-2009, 11:14 AM

Hi,

I have a question for a first time user.

Let's say we have an individual, 200 lbs @ 8% bf (legit). The Individual is close to or at his (proposed) "genetic limit".

What could this individual gain from steroids bodyweight wise and strength wise? Basic starter cycle, 500mgs Test-E over 12 weeks?

**Critical Mass** · 11-30-2009, 11:39 AM

15-35 pounds.

**polly56** · 11-30-2009, 01:06 PM

It depends on many things associated with Diet and Workout routine.

**matrick** · 11-30-2009, 04:54 PM

What would you consider proper diet? Do you think that something like Berardi's Precision NUtrition would be fine?

What is the general take on training while on? Just hypertrophy training or westside? DC? sets of 5?

**Kratos** · 11-30-2009, 04:55 PM

somewhere between 0-200 pounds
what ever it is, I can promise it won't be enough to make you happy

**matrick** · 11-30-2009, 04:56 PM

how come you say that?

**BJJ** · 11-30-2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by matrick

Hi,

I have a question for a first time user.

Let's say we have an individual, 200 lbs @ 8% bf (legit). The Individual is close to or at his (proposed) "genetic limit".

What could this individual gain from steroids bodyweight wise and strength wise? Basic starter cycle, 500mgs Test-E over 12 weeks?

How do you know that?