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    needs advice from some1 who knows what their talking about

    running test e at 500mg/wk for 15wks
    eq at 600mg/wk for 14 weeks

    want to run an AI throughout cycle but cant decide between Letro or Aromasin , need help....and will running an AI take away from gains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22 View Post
    running test e at 500mg/wk for 15wks
    eq at 600mg/wk for 14 weeks

    want to run an AI throughout cycle but cant decide between Letro or Aromasin, need help....and will running an AI take away from gains?
    Stats first?

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    22 years old
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    6 years lifting...

    this is my first cycle

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    test only for first timer

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    I wouldn't use either on cycle, if I chose to use an ai on cycle it would be arimidex at .25mg/eod.

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    agreed^

    if its your first cycle how do you know youll even need an Ai?

    and if the AI is used correctly it will not inhibit gains...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I wouldn't use either on cycle, if I chose to use an ai on cycle it would be arimidex at .25mg/eod.
    why wouldnt you use any on cycle?

    what is letro even used for?

    and isnt it good to use one if gyno occurs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    test only for first timer
    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I wouldn't use either on cycle, if I chose to use an ai on cycle it would be arimidex at .25mg/eod.
    Quote Originally Posted by peachfuzz View Post
    agreed^

    if its your first cycle how do you know youll even need an Ai?

    and if the AI is used correctly it will not inhibit gains...
    Did any of you notice he is just 22 years old?

    OP, DO NOT cycle at your age especially for 15 weeks long.
    You requested a friendship a few days ago and I accepted it. Now listen my advice!

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    yes I noticed his age, I already tried to discourage him from cycling in the past.

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    why am i too young, and why is 15weeks too long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    yes I noticed his age, I already tried to discourage him from cycling in the past.
    My bad then, I did not know.

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    what if i shortend the cycle to 12 wks test e at 625 wk and eq at 700mg wk for 11 wks, does that sound better?

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    good god, alot of compounds and 22.

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    its 2 compounds lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22 View Post
    why am i too young, and why is 15weeks too long?
    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.


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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22 View Post
    what if i shortend the cycle to 12 wks test e at 625 wk and eq at 700mg wk for 11 wks, does that sound better?
    If you do decide to cycle anyways then test e at 500mg a week and you will respond like a monster. Those doses are pretty high for someone who's never cycled.

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    ok yall have been in this game long enough, when someone is set on taking them they are going to, so instead of flamming me can you guys please offer me advice on my cycle....

    FIRST CYCLE
    Test E 500mg wk, 12 wks
    EQ 700mg wk, 11 wks
    aromasin ED at 12.5mg when gyno symptoms occur

    Please critique this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22;4975***
    ok yall have been in this game long enough, when someone is set on taking them they are going to, so instead of flamming me can you guys please offer me advice on my cycle....

    FIRST CYCLE
    Test E 500mg wk, 12 wks
    EQ 700mg wk, 11 wks
    aromasin ED at 12.5mg when gyno symptoms occur

    Please critique this!
    there was no flaming, just a statment of fact based on science you could **** your shit up.

    in regards to your cycle listed people have already answered it by saying what you should take for your first cycle. and do some research on ai/serm if the given answers dont suit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22;4975***
    ok yall have been in this game long enough, when someone is set on taking them they are going to, so instead of flamming me can you guys please offer me advice on my cycle....

    FIRST CYCLE
    Test E 500mg wk, 12 wks
    EQ 700mg wk, 11 wks
    aromasin ED at 12.5mg when gyno symptoms occur

    Please critique this!
    Did you not read my 2 post?

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    fuk me i am getn sick of this shit, sooo many kids who knw all and listen to nothing, jez wen i was tht age it was all cars and women. why are you determined to screw yourself up and ignore wat experienced users are tellin you?! you wont turn into Coleman you know

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    declan11 Sorry I cant help but enjoy to read your posts just for spelling purposes....

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    you have been told test only for 1st cycle ...

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    ur right, but i have 3 bottles of eqi dont want to waste......lets pretend this...

    i have 3 bottles test e, 3 bottles eq
    250mg/ml 10ml vials

    can someone set up a cycle they would do with this amount of gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22 View Post
    ur right, but i have 3 bottles of eqi dont want to waste......lets pretend this...

    i have 3 bottles test e, 3 bottles eq
    250mg/ml 10ml vials

    can someone set up a cycle they would do with this amount of gear
    You do realize the gear will keep for years, right?

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    Did you seriously start two threads in the same forum asking the same question?

    im taking everyones advice, so can you tweak it a lil bit

    It doesn't matter how many times you ask. You are 22 years old. You have a LARGE amount of perfectly functional, fully legal, and super clean testosterone ... your OWN!

    Don't be stubborn. If you really want to learn, then research why its bad to take gear at your age before researching anything else.

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    how long is test e and eq good for then if i dont take roids just yet?

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    stored in a dark drawer, for years.

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    why dark big?

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    why not? lol
    it's best to store it in a dark place.

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    when is the earlist u suggest i take them then?

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    25, once your hpta has fully developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    If you do decide to cycle anyways then test e at 500mg a week and you will respond like a monster. Those doses are pretty high for someone who's never cycled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    Did you not read my 2 post?
    He did not!

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    Please dont start a cycle at your age, you can cause yourself damage what will effects you for the rest of your life, do you want to have low libido? depression? small testicles? low testosterone ? HRT in your 20's? not be able to get a hard on? do you want children? acne? hairloss? to name a few, do you really want to risk it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firsttimer22;4975***
    ok yall have been in this game long enough, when someone is set on taking them they are going to, so instead of flamming me can you guys please offer me advice on my cycle....

    FIRST CYCLE
    Test E 500mg wk, 12 wks
    EQ 700mg wk, 11 wks
    aromasin ED at 12.5mg when gyno symptoms occur

    Please critique this!
    Now find a full length mirror, walk up to it and tell yourself exactly what you want to hear.

    You are the only person who you are going to listen to. All the advise (good advise) has been given to you and you dont want any part of it.

    Do what you want to do. We will see you back in a few months like most kids saying HELP, I have a problem...... CYA

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Please dont start a cycle at your age, you can cause yourself damage what will effects you for the rest of your life, do you want to have low libido? depression? small testicles? low testosterone? HRT in your 20's? not be able to get a hard on? do you want children? acne? hairloss? to name a few, do you really want to risk it!!
    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Now find a full length mirror, walk up to it and tell yourself exactly what you want to hear.

    You are the only person who you are going to listen to. All the advise (good advise) has been given to you and you dont want any part of it.

    Do what you want to do. We will see you back in a few months like most kids saying HELP, I have a problem...... CYA
    Solid Posts!
    OP, you just need to read to make up your mind

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