overweight and in need of suggestions

**real** · 12-14-2009, 09:08 AM

I'm 5.8,240 lbs muscular build but also a lot of fat.I'm new to the whole steroid thing and I'm looking for suggestions on the right ones that I might use to cut up I'm not trying to lose size but I really want to lose the fat and get ripped by the summer any suggestions.please help

**RANA** · 12-14-2009, 09:13 AM

You need to read up on the diet section.

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:15 AM

rrrrr

**RANA** · 12-14-2009, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Shepard

low dose of test to stay on the anabolic side, like 100mg to 150mg/e6d for 10 to 15 weeks, along with Clen .

Thats something i would do if I was to cut down.

test will do you no good without a proper diet.

**real** · 12-14-2009, 09:17 AM

Believe me I need more than a diet trust

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:21 AM

But, yeah you should check your diet. I did my way to 5% with no gears, just natural, hitting cardio and weight, eating well. Take lots of will but yeh, its the safest way to get there and as far the better.

**marcus300** · 12-14-2009, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Shepard

low dose of test en to stay on the anabolic side, like 100mg to 150mg/e6d for 10 to 15 weeks, along with Clen .

Thats something i would do if I was to cut down.

Very bad advice

**RANA** · 12-14-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by real

Believe me I need more than a diet trust

Actually you would be surprised by what you read. There are too many trainers out there the give out piss poor diets. Diet and Cardio!!

What are your stats?

Steriods are not magic, they don't work without a proper diet and workout

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by real

Believe me I need more than a diet trust

If only you knew what a diet could do

**marcus300** · 12-14-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by real

I'm 5.8,240 lbs muscular build but also a lot of fat.I'm new to the whole steroid thing and I'm looking for suggestions on the right ones that I might use to cut up I'm not trying to lose size but I really want to lose the fat and get ripped by the summer any suggestions.please help

Post your diet,
How old are you?
How long have you been training?
What is your bf?

**fizler** · 12-14-2009, 09:22 AM

Do some work on your diet. I don't care how muscular you are, at 5 foot 8 your a fat ass. Don't fool yourself. I would be willing to bet you are around 40% body fat.

**RANA** · 12-14-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by fizler

Do some work on your diet. I don't care how muscular you are, at 5 foot 8 your a fat ass. Don't fool yourself. I would be willing to bet you are around 40% body fat.

A bit harsh but I understand your point

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Very bad advice

Sorry, tought it could be good, Thats something I would like to try, can you explain me whats wrong so I dont say something like this to some1 again. hehh

**marcus300** · 12-14-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Shepard

Sorry, tought it could be good, Thats something I would like to try, can you explain me whats wrong so I dont say something like this to some1 again. hehh

You cant give advice to someone what you dont know anything about:
Age,
what is his diet consist of,
How long as he been training,
whats his BF,
Is he a she,

**real** · 12-14-2009, 09:30 AM

I'm 34 yrs old I've been training about three months and yes my bf is around 40%.I'm a fat ass I admit it help...

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:32 AM

Ok true I shouldve ask about him but I mean considering the concept of small dose of test, clen ?

**real** · 12-14-2009, 09:35 AM

Somebody tell me somthing???

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:38 AM

Well i tend to anwser to fast so, nvm my advice, i retired it, listen to these guys they have more exp.

Cant tell you more but to check up your diet.

**marcus300** · 12-14-2009, 09:40 AM

Post your diet

**RANA** · 12-14-2009, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by real

Somebody tell me somthing???

Look at all the previous post, diet, diet , diet I don't think anything else will help. At 40% bf the is very unhealthy and dangerous. Do you even workout? Do you diet? If you do please post!

**real** · 12-14-2009, 09:43 AM

Please don't tell me you guys would rather argue than help a brotha out,I really have a problem!

**real** · 12-14-2009, 09:48 AM

I've been working out for about three months and I havn't really been able to find a good diet but I'm open for suggestion,and my bf is more around 20-25%

**marcus300** · 12-14-2009, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by real

Please don't tell me you guys would rather argue than help a brotha out,I really have a problem!

why dont you read the bloody post's and answer the questions?

POST YOUR DIET

**Shepard** · 12-14-2009, 09:49 AM

what are you eating, post it

**dec11** · 12-14-2009, 09:50 AM

they aint arguing, no one can help unless you post your diet

**RANA** · 12-14-2009, 09:54 AM

At no time have I argued, I am trying to ask questions, upon answering those questions you get answer from me. Failing to answer those question means we can not give proper advice.

**urbanbody** · 12-14-2009, 10:51 AM

I don't think he is really following anything such as a low cal diet or anything. Are you wanting someone to write you a diet?

**inky-e** · 12-14-2009, 08:22 PM

I'm not gonna come down on ya for wanting to speed along the weight and fat loss...I was very heavy at one time..and I used gear in my efforts to drop the weight. Then again I was very dedicated to my workouts and cardio...but three months isn't enough..my concern is that you use juice and then lose interest in training..then you'll be really f#cked.

**barnyap** · 12-14-2009, 08:56 PM

u been training for 3 months and over 40% bf, so u head straight to steroid forum, wow man are u ****ing serious

**barnyap** · 12-14-2009, 08:58 PM

the amount of junk you would have put in ur mouth and lack of dedication and training to put u over the 40% mark is not gonna be reversed in 10 weeks with STEROIDS

**elfin1mf** · 12-15-2009, 12:26 AM

Lower calories and increase frequency of exercises. Lose the fat first, juice your way to the top later. It will be much faster than trying to do both at the same time. Forget the muscle mass and train as much as you can as often as you can, eat raw foods only. If you REALLY push yourself, you will be skinny in 3 more months. Then you can juice and in 3 more months you will look amazing.

**ranging1** · 12-15-2009, 04:07 AM

lol maybe this will help you out

since u think steroids will help you THEY WONT, just thought id make that clear to you so u stop thinking that by taking steroids u will loose weight

sorry buit steroids dont work like that, if you check it up their actually designed to help people with anemia GAIN weight, so by taking steroids ur not going to drop bodyfat like you think u are

as marcus said diet is the thing thats going to help you, dont think by taking steroids youll drop bodyfat, sorry but doesnt work like that

**lovbyts** · 12-15-2009, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by real

Believe me I need more than a diet trust

No a diet is ALL you need

Originally Posted by real

I'm 34 yrs old I've been training about three months and yes my bf is around 40%.I'm a fat ass I admit it help...

If you want help then listen to what is being said

Originally Posted by real

Somebody tell me somthing???

Are you one of these guys if you are drowning and someone throws you a life ring you wont take it because you are waiting for something better? You arent going to find it.

Diet is 100% all you need. Im 5'8", 2 years ago I was 210 lbs and I lost it ALL from learning how to eat 6+ meals a day. I dont eat less, now I eat even more than before it's it's dam hard to gain weight.

I went from 210 lbs - 165 in under 6 months with only minimal gym time. Then I wanted to gain the muscle so I learned how to really work out and you can see my profile pics.

What you need is to stop looking for a magic pill, you will NEVER find it. It's about diet (learning what to eat and when to eat it) learning to live healthy and working out. A couple months is NOTHING. I have been in the gym 5x a week for 1 1/2 years + It's a life style, not a fad.

Since you already have high BF if you take steroids now you will blow up even more with water weight and look worse than now. If you try to take something to try to burn fat you risk heart attack. You are in the prime of your life, take advantage of it and get off your fat ass and in the gym and most important learn to eat.

**barnyap** · 12-15-2009, 04:52 AM

at 40% u wont inject through that ass of yours either. maybe a 3inch needle

**soon2bfreak** · 12-15-2009, 05:35 AM

dude right now you are carrying around 100lbs of body fat. these guys aren't holding out on you, you need to first off see a doctor and get your cholesterol checked, cause if you been doing your research you know going on will lower your good, and up your bad, and in your case that could be extremely bad, the sudden increase to solid muscle mass could too much of a strain on your heart, once again could be very bad. and i hate to tell you this but steroids don't burn fat, they increase muscle mass. there is no magic pill or shot even on, you still have to bust your ass. if you are not willing to work out hard enough to drop to 20% bf then taking roids and sitting on the couch wont do you any good

**elfin1mf** · 12-19-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

No a diet is ALL you need
I dont eat less, now I eat even more than before it's it's dam hard to gain weight.

Very true. i do not know why this happens, but maybe it is because your fat cells become more sensitive to the hormone which causes them to releases their lipids into the bloodstream? Maybe your body just changes its hormonal balance and produces more of this hormone? Idk, but I definately noticed it is much harder to gain fat after I burned it all off.