Pinning myself for first time, any tips??

[eyeothetiger]

Hi guys, well I'm due to pin myself for first time in few days and I'm just looking for any tips you may have. Keeping it short and simple, I'm on week 8 of the following cycle:

Weeks 1-4 40mg Dbol /day
Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E

Due to a fall out with my friend who has always my pinner I was put in the position of having to go only with orals or being brave and going for it myself. I have broken the ice by pricking myself (cleanly) a few times and was very nicely suprised just how easily needles actually goes and how you can literally wiggle the needle without it hurting (not that I plan on wiggling it too much!).

So yeah are there any tips you masters can give me?. Obviously top outer quadrant of glute is where I'll be going, this is definitely safest? (really don't fancy doing quads).

Are there any particular areas of glute that are bit dodgy?, for example if I go into lower quadrant on either side is that gonna be like deadly?

Any help very much appreciated as funnily enough falling out with him has made me more determined to get this cycle finished and reap the results which so far are very nice.

[AstheticKing]

dont die

[eyeothetiger]

Any constructive answers more than welcome, people who give stupid answers like that shouldn't be allowed to roam on forums IMO. What should is simple for one person may cause big problem for the next, steroids aren't something to take lightly surely??.

[JinNtonic]

"tips"? Yes take the tip of the needle and stick it in, and go train!

[corsa5000]

go for delts if you dont like the sound of glutes, they are easy and comfortable

[JinNtonic]

Just take your time and go slow.

1.5" needle for glute. Get all the air out, use alcohol swab to clean injection area. Nothing to it.

[ylfcm]

Im no pro but the Sciatica nerve runs through the center of Glutes, go top Quadrant and you wil be fine, if you are worried about it or wanna see what you are doing just go your quads.

ylfcm

[stpete]

You are correct, the outer part of the glute is the best. As for going lower you can but be careful. I was told many years ago by a friend and a paramedic to use this strategy. Split the whole glute in half equally horizontally. Then your ass crack is the vertical. I was told to never go beyond that horizontal line because of the sciatic nerve. And if you hit it you will be in trouble. There's plenty of room so don't worry. Be sure to aspirate before injecting. Some people say you don't have to when hitting the glute but i don't agree. Always aspirate.
So just put some juice in your next pin and inject. You'll be ok.
Good luck.

[IAMCDN]

delts are definetly easier IMO. especially when your pinning yourself. Dont think about it too much...just pick your spot and go. good luck bro.

[eyeothetiger]

JinNtonic cheers, yeah have 1.5's already and Test E is in vial so easy, couldn't be dealing with amps as pain in the arse...found Sust on last cycle was literally more of a pain in the arse than the Test E is being now too. I used to warm the sust in amp before injecting, is that really needed as this Test E is literally painless terms actually going in.

Just out of interest to give you few stats I'm 30 years old, 5'10", 185 lbs with very little bf. 185 lbs is at present, cycle history is two dbol 's only (yeah I know kept very little!) and before this cycle my very first injectable cycle was:

Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
Weeks 1-12 Sust 500mg/week

Any suggestions for next cycle?, I wanna proper beef up but remain in good shape which is normally very easy for me as I'm naturally quite slim build.

[Big]

I prefer delt shots to anywhere else.

[eyeothetiger]

Are delts very safe/painful?, anywhere particular to avoid terms them?. Big I know you're one the governors around here, your suggestion on next cycle would be very much appreciated...also you are being genuine about delts being good choice, sorry don't mean to doubt at all but like I said when people give stupid answers and they're not edited out it makes me and I'm sure others naturally doubtful on what to believe.

[Big]

I like delts, middle or front, the rear delt is hard for me to reach. it will be easier to pick a next cycle after you see how you respond to this one, but adding deca could be a nice mix.

[JinNtonic]

I prefer delt shots to anywhere else.

I used to hate Glutes and went Quads only. I just gave Glutes another shot(literally), and it was not bad at all.

I am going to have to give Delts a try...

[stpete]

Had you asked about best places to shoot i would of answered delts and quads. Whenever you have the syringe right in front of you without having to bend around is always better. I just assumed that since you're kind of weary of shooting yourself possibly glute is best.
s p o t i n j e c t i o n s . c o m..........remove the spaces.

[eyeothetiger]

Big my pins are 1.5 inch tho, thats no good for delts??. Also you didn't answer important part :-), does it hurt anymore than glutes and any areas of delt I should avoid as in where I can hit nerve etc?.

[Big]

the length of pin won't be a concern, just don't push it in all the way if shooting delts. initial pain is about the same for me anywhere when puncturing the skin, I like quad shots but seem to hit nerves more in the quads. I'm not a fan of glute shots, hard for me to twist and hit them right.

[eyeothetiger]

Yeah I'm familiar with spot injections stpete but couldn't get answers needed terms is it more painful than glutes and any areas to avoid as at mo yeah I'm liking idea of delts. Have thought of quads but not too keen, spose if my 1.5 inch pins aren't any good for delts I could go for them though as can see clearly.

Like say pricked my glute earlier and went in so easily was joke.

[eyeothetiger]

Come on Big, you are the governor :-), where do I need to be careful of if going for delts and how much should I leave out of 1.5 inch needle terms not going all the way in?.

On serious note to clear this up so I'm all set would be great as at mo cycle up in the air, got 4 weeks worth of Test E there staring at me and so wanna pin it but wanna be sure gonna be cool.

[Big]

with a 1.5" pin, leave half or a little less exposed, so you're only pushing in 3/4 of an inch to an inch. stay at the meaty part of the delt, not too low where the delt goes into the bi/tri area.

[Big]

also I like to inject very slowly.

[eyeothetiger]

Cool, so delts definitely my best bet in terms of being able to do it clearly and safely?. Suddenly got images of Ivan Drago Rocky IV, he hardly flinched and guy stuck it right in there hey :-).

[burman]

work sterile, poke fast not slow if you don't want it to hurt and aspirate that is all. it's simple so keep it that way.

[ranging1]

inject into your quads, its the easiest

i personaly think my left quad is easiest just coz im right footed, so doing the left leg i feel nothing and its easy to relax

all you do is put ur leg staight, make sure its relaxed

use your hand to check if your legs nice and relaxed and soft (not tensed)

get your syringe and inject right in the middle of your quad

since ur using a 1.5 inch needle just stop a little short of the end of the needle

i use 1 and quater inch needle, and go all the way in, so dont be worried about the needle going in to deep

just place the syringe about 2cm above ur legs inection sight, smile and push in

DW it doesnt hurt, im scared SHITLESS of needles all my life and i can say it doesnt hurt, and i use a 23g needle which is a little bigger and i cant even feel it go in

i rmeeber first time i jabbed my quad i was so nervous,

i put the needle over my leg , and pushed in nice and smoothly

i just felt a prick and then i had to check if the needle was even in lol

it was and i was sweet to go

[Loaded61]

try your upper arm near your shoulder if your a little afraid of the tenderness

[eyeothetiger]

ranging1 have private messaged you in case you didn't see this but few more questions if possible...

Are you speaking from experience of trying other areas too?

Is the quad a caution area in terms of alot you could possibly hit?

Lastly I didn't get the "put needle over leg bit, 2cm above"??

[ranging1]

ranging1 have private messaged you in case you didn't see this but few more questions if possible...

Are you speaking from experience of trying other areas too?

Is the quad a caution area in terms of alot you could possibly hit?

Lastly I didn't get the "put needle over leg bit, 2cm above"??

yes from experience

i use to do glutes and always hated them just becuase its awkawrd, and when your pinning for the first time your always nervous and the last thing you need to to be struggling to reach over to inject yourself or off balance

or worse not able to see exactly where your injecting, i always found it awkward with my glutes, i use to get my mate to inject me originaly when i did glutes just coz i couldnt do it, now i can but its a absolute pain

i then found out about quads, and it just made life so easy, and since the quads such a big muscle group u dont need to be spot on when you inject it, you can move around a little so u can avoid future scar tissue

the quad isnt a caution area, its a very big muscle group, if you tense your quad im sure u can see the whole muscle and how big it is,

once u see ur muscle tensed u can see where the middle of your quad is

just inject around the middle area (for simplicity sake), u dont need ot be spot on, and if your not its no big deal, the quads a massive muscle so ur not going to risk damagining anything

unless u inject near ur knee, but im sure u wopuldnt inject near ur knee seeing how big your quads are

ive tried other areas, personaly quads are by far the easiest, and pain wise is nothing

delts i dont mind but i always find someitmes i get leakage after ive injected and that frustrates me

pectorials i like aswell but i wouldnt pin them your first time just coz u wanna get use to pinning first before u start searching for areas like pecs

ive never done bicep or tricep, though just the idea of pinning them puts me off

ive done traps and HATE it since its just awkward

ive done calves and found it easy but id say its the most painful to inject into, theirs still very little pain but i dont like the after feeling once uve injected since it feels liek a little bruise and walking around on your calve the following day after its been injected is just annoying

the only issue with injecting into quads is u can hit a nerve (u can do this in all muscles so its not a big issue), even if you hit a nerve its no big deal, ur leg will jerk a little or twitch, thats it, theirs no pain etc, some people get shocked when it happen coz they think theyve hit something (when i hit a nerve in my quad once i thought id hit something coz i was using a longer needle, but i didnt, it was just a nerve, it didnt hurt, just my leg jerking made me worry that i did something

what i meant by put needle over leg is

once uve set the needle up, just hold the syringe in your hand (fist grip) with the needle facing down over ur leg

hold it just over ur quad about 2cm away from ur skin

and then in one motion, lower ur hand and the needle will slide smoothly into your skin

ull feel a little prick (if that) i personaly think it like a pinch since a prick hurts more lol

once the needles in, slide it almost to the end (since ur needle 1 and half inch), dont worry about slind in to far, the qauds is amazingly deep muscle aswell

ive used 1 and half inch on ym quad the first time i injected to, i just stopped about half a centimetre from the end of the needle

once the needles in, (since ur hand is still in a fist grip) use ur thumb to push down on the plunger,

push slowly or at the speed u want, whatever makes u feel comfortable

i push slowly just becuase its relaxing and gives time for the solution to absorbed

i also find that if i push down to hard, the solution goes in fast and i feel it going in, which i dont really like, so i take my time

once the plunger has reached the end(the solution is all in your muscle and the syringe is now empty)

wait 10 seconds just to make sure the solution is absorbed

and then just pull the neddle out

dont worry when u pull the needle out u WONT FEEL IT, seriosuly im not just saying that, u wont feel it when u pull the needle it, its great

and then your all done

[ottomaddox]

ie...... Don't be a P u s s y , I like to drip a couple of drops of oil down the needle to lube it up and make it easier to inject. I've been shooting quads for the last 2 years every 10 days with no problems. Punch yourself in the thigh, that will hurt more than the injection. Just do it and stop procrastinating.

ranging1 have private messaged you in case you didn't see this but few more questions if possible...

Are you speaking from experience of trying other areas too?

Is the quad a caution area in terms of alot you could possibly hit?

Lastly I didn't get the "put needle over leg bit, 2cm above"??

[LeroyB]

Quad shooter here. 1 in pin. Don't forget to asperate, but yea like Ranging says.
Cake!

[eyeothetiger]

ranging1 a big thank you for such an detailed, awesome answer as it's made me feel lot more chilled about it now. The only thing left in my head is if I hit a vein in my quad?, at the risk of sounding like a wimp when it's something this serious I like to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing and beens it's my first time myself it's important.

I poked my glute last night and how easily it went in (no solution and sterile) was a very nice suprise, I just need to know of any outstanding potential issues if possible as quads is where I'm gonna go now defo.

[ranging1]

ranging1 a big thank you for such an detailed, awesome answer as it's made me feel lot more chilled about it now. The only thing left in my head is if I hit a vein in my quad?, at the risk of sounding like a wimp when it's something this serious I like to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing and beens it's my first time myself it's important.

I poked my glute last night and how easily it went in (no solution and sterile) was a very nice suprise, I just need to know of any outstanding potential issues if possible as quads is where I'm gonna go now defo.

LMFAO HITTING A VEIN? wtf lol its muscle dw ur not going to hit any veins

just jab around the middle, it doesnt have be exact, U WONT HIT A VEIN, veins arent running around that area or through ur muscle their

[ottomaddox]

w w w . s p o t i n j e c t i o n s . c o m

[eyeothetiger]

Checked out s p o t i n j e c t i o n s. c o m again and found this image. So I need to be there or anywhere in the middle part of the quads and I'm good to go?, not too near the knee or top of quads?. Also and lastly :-), if I rotate injecting each leg every 7 days which is how I'm shooting the Test E that's cool too?

[chuckt12345]

First shots should be done in the glute,, its the easiest and most painless area on the body. I would not do quads for first shot

[NMacFar]

I use 1.5 inch needles for the glutes. I would try injecting in to your shoulder, though. It's the easiest and least painful way to do it to yourself. Take your cap and cut 'maybe' an inch off, place it over the pin and you've got yourself an inch long needle!! Just make sure you clean the cap with alcohol and you'll be good to go!

[yungone501]

yes from experience

i use to do glutes and always hated them just becuase its awkawrd, and when your pinning for the first time your always nervous and the last thing you need to to be struggling to reach over to inject yourself or off balance

or worse not able to see exactly where your injecting, i always found it awkward with my glutes, i use to get my mate to inject me originaly when i did glutes just coz i couldnt do it, now i can but its a absolute pain

i then found out about quads, and it just made life so easy, and since the quads such a big muscle group u dont need to be spot on when you inject it, you can move around a little so u can avoid future scar tissue

the quad isnt a caution area, its a very big muscle group, if you tense your quad im sure u can see the whole muscle and how big it is,

once u see ur muscle tensed u can see where the middle of your quad is

just inject around the middle area (for simplicity sake), u dont need ot be spot on, and if your not its no big deal, the quads a massive muscle so ur not going to risk damagining anything

unless u inject near ur knee, but im sure u wopuldnt inject near ur knee seeing how big your quads are

ive tried other areas, personaly quads are by far the easiest, and pain wise is nothing

delts i dont mind but i always find someitmes i get leakage after ive injected and that frustrates me

pectorials i like aswell but i wouldnt pin them your first time just coz u wanna get use to pinning first before u start searching for areas like pecs

ive never done bicep or tricep, though just the idea of pinning them puts me off

ive done traps and HATE it since its just awkward

ive done calves and found it easy but id say its the most painful to inject into, theirs still very little pain but i dont like the after feeling once uve injected since it feels liek a little bruise and walking around on your calve the following day after its been injected is just annoying

the only issue with injecting into quads is u can hit a nerve (u can do this in all muscles so its not a big issue), even if you hit a nerve its no big deal, ur leg will jerk a little or twitch, thats it, theirs no pain etc, some people get shocked when it happen coz they think theyve hit something (when i hit a nerve in my quad once i thought id hit something coz i was using a longer needle, but i didnt, it was just a nerve, it didnt hurt, just my leg jerking made me worry that i did something

what i meant by put needle over leg is

once uve set the needle up, just hold the syringe in your hand (fist grip) with the needle facing down over ur leg

hold it just over ur quad about 2cm away from ur skin

and then in one motion, lower ur hand and the needle will slide smoothly into your skin

ull feel a little prick (if that) i personaly think it like a pinch since a prick hurts more lol

once the needles in, slide it almost to the end (since ur needle 1 and half inch), dont worry about slind in to far, the qauds is amazingly deep muscle aswell

ive used 1 and half inch on ym quad the first time i injected to, i just stopped about half a centimetre from the end of the needle

once the needles in, (since ur hand is still in a fist grip) use ur thumb to push down on the plunger,

push slowly or at the speed u want, whatever makes u feel comfortable

i push slowly just becuase its relaxing and gives time for the solution to absorbed

i also find that if i push down to hard, the solution goes in fast and i feel it going in, which i dont really like, so i take my time

once the plunger has reached the end(the solution is all in your muscle and the syringe is now empty)

wait 10 seconds just to make sure the solution is absorbed

and then just pull the neddle out

dont worry when u pull the needle out u WONT FEEL IT, seriosuly im not just saying that, u wont feel it when u pull the needle it, its great

and then your all done

DAMN ranging1, that's a mouthful of advice.

[JimmyJam]

The only thing left in my head is if I hit a vein in my quad?, at the risk of sounding like a wimp when it's something this serious I like to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing and beens it's my first time myself it's important.

This would be a reason to Aspirate , just in case. Some do, some don't, but if you're worried about it, just pull back a little on the plunger and if you get alot of blood, then pull it out, put on another needle and stab in another spot.

[firsttimer22]

i pinned myslef today for the first time in the glute, i aspirated and air bubbles came in so i new i was good, then just injected....

[G4R]

Delts are the easiest IMO, after that, I like outer head bicep injections.

[jaydream]

This is worth watching from 1978 but still up to date. having watched this found it very funny but also good facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7otcmsn0Vts

Its amazing what you can do with a pencil