Too young....

**"DIRTY D" SANCHEZ** · 12-24-2009, 10:48 AM

Alright guys i have been reading around and i am quite sure the majority of people on here will say i am too young to be doing aas. Which is probably true but unfortunately i have taken them on and off (in a horrible fashion) for about two years. Ex: I get a bottle of test and ill do it or maybe like tren or deca - i've never even avtually gotten a stack and taken it.... I have a 20ml bottle of winstrol that i;m going to just hold onto until i can get some test and i want to stack with something else. I was wondering what you guys would suggest for me to run with the winnie.... My stats ar as follows= i'm 23 on the 28th of this month, 185lbs honestly my bf% is high cuz i took 6 weeks of test e 300 for 6 weeks with a horrible diet. Assuming i get the diet under control what is a good suggestion to run with the winnie? I was thinking a test and then maybe deca, tren, dbol ? I can make large gains with little gear and bad diet but i want to do this the right way this time. Bf% is probably up at like 17 or 18%. Want to get to about 195-200 with about 10% bf if possible..... What fo you guys suggest?

**dec11** · 12-24-2009, 10:53 AM

even thou you have done it in the past you still should hold back incase you do any further damage, which u may hav done already

**marcus300** · 12-24-2009, 10:55 AM

Your to young and you have no idea what your doing, your bodyfat is to high and there is no doubt your diet is awfull, stop thinking your answer is in steroids it isnt!!

Go to the doctor and get bloodwork done and see how much damage you have cause, in the meantime go to the diet section and reasearch and implement a good solid diet.

**"DIRTY D" SANCHEZ** · 12-24-2009, 11:20 AM

What kind of damage is possible in my situation. And i do see where you guys are coming from with trying to find the answer per say but i actually use to get quicker results.... I know this is bad and i ignore it but i would like to know what kind of damage i could be doing and what i can do to help the process.

**Nooomoto** · 12-24-2009, 11:45 AM

what i can do to help the process.

Stop using steroids , and stop posting multiple threads on asking how to use steroids . You should also stop trying to get your friends on steroids.

Advice.....

Need advice prom a pro

**Dont wanna be old** · 12-24-2009, 11:56 AM

I see a lot of steroid talk but no post cycle therapy .

Taking AAS without diet and pct is like building a race car without a seat belt .

First you need a solid diet and work out routine .

To answer your question :
Your hormones may be out of balance right now . Blood work seems necessary
High body fat
Gyno

Anyway , Learn from your mistakes and be more careful .

**Danbireland** · 12-25-2009, 11:02 PM

seriously man good diet is all you need i taught i was a so called ''hard gainer'' and was thinking about doing a cycle so i came on here and realised my diet was s**t and in 6 months ive dropped b/f to around 12% and put on 7kg dont quite know how much lean muscle that is alltogether but i do know i wouldnt of had anything like that from a cycle without sorting out my diet

**El Corvino** · 12-26-2009, 03:01 AM

tho my results may be extreme... I was at 20% body fat and wanted to start a cycle quick. I did T3 with clen , TONS of cardio and good diet... lost 1% BF per week every week to 12%... took 4 weeks to loose another 2%. I was disciplined enough to listen to my guru who said get to 10% before you start. Be disciplined or don't do AAS. I think it paid off and was worth it. Because down to that 10% on Dbol or Deca with water retention will add about 2%... so your 20% will be 22%.

So basically you'll just look fatter which is stupid. And what kind of damage could you have done? Well... when you turn 28 and look awesome but your weiner doesn't work I guess you'll find out. Go get blood work.