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    4rth cycle critique?

    hows this look...

    Goal:
    Mostly cosmetic LBM...preparing for spring photo shoot and the beach!

    Cycle:
    wk 1-6 Test P 150mg EOD
    wk 1-6 Tren A 150mg EOD
    wk 4-8 Win 70mg ED

    PCT:
    wk 1-4 20mg Nolva ED
    wk 1-3 100mg Clomid ED

    Stats:
    25yrs
    6'2
    205 lbs
    10-13% BF

    Work out:
    Mon-Chest/tri/abs
    Tues-Back/light bicep/cardio
    Wed-shldrs/legs/abs
    Fri- Bicep/ light chest/light tricep/cardio

    Diet:
    Meal 1: 4 eggs, oatmeal
    (Snack 1)
    Meal 2: veggies, 2 Chicken breasts/ 2 cans of tuna
    (lift)
    PWO: Whey protien shake + half banana
    Meal 3: brown rice, veggies, 2 Chicken breasts/steak/fish/lean ground beef
    (Snack 2)
    Meal 4: veggies, 2 Chicken breasts/steak/fish/lean ground beef
    (Snack 3)
    Meal 5: pinneapple + cottage chease/ peanut butter + apples/ lean cuisine
    Bed: Casein Protien shake

    *Snacks consist of...almonds, power bars, peanut butter, cottage chease, fruit, salad, rice cakes, lean cuisine
    *Some meals are interchangeable and I sometimes throw in sushi or chicken ceasar salad
    * Yes I know diet is not totally dialed in but Im a total ectomorph (sp?), when im not training hard core i can eat anything I want and stay lean

    Experience:

    1st:
    Var only

    2nd: 4
    wk 1-4 40mg Dbol ED
    wk 1-12 Test E 400mg wk
    wk 12-14 Var

    3rd:
    wk 1-4 50mg Dbol ED
    wk 1-12 Test sust 500mg wk
    wk 8-14 Mast 400 mgs wk

    *PCT for 2nd + 3rd cycle were similar to the one proposed for this cycle..

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    That is not a cosmetic cycle.

    best

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    I don't care for it, too short.

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    Oh, and your diet can us a little work

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    I'd pin the tren ed.

    And if you are pinning the tren ed, then do the prop also.

    Break up the gear for a stable level in your system.

    PCT needs to be tweaked.IMO

    Cycle is short, like Rana has pointed out.

    I'd add a couple of weeks to the test, at least.

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    Oh, and your diet can us a little work
    Ya, a little.

    I've seen alot worse.

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    Ya, a little.

    I've seen alot worse.

    Best

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    I totally agree, nothing better then seeing people put subway or 4 meals of PBJ with a manwich...
    His diet only needs a few small adjustments

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    Wink

    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    I totally agree, nothing better then seeing people put subway or 4 meals of PBJ with a manwich...
    His diet only needs a few small adjustments
    What's up Rana?

    Working the trenches I see.

    I love working Q&A with you.

    Since we both seem to be insane or something!LOL

    J/K

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    lol yeah maybe thats not that much of a cosmetic cycle...maybe I will drop the tren and extend the test to 8wks and finish up with some Clen 2wks on 2wks off 2wks on (I have also used clen in the past)...the goal is not to put on a shit load of muscle but to chizzle up some and get some more definition!

    6 wks is short but what happened to the 6wks prop/tren a/mast cycles that everyone used to run??? or atleast it seemed like everyone used to run those...

    Yeah I know the diet isnt perfect but im telling you im at 10% bf when I eat pizza, soda, burgers basically nothing but crap...I started training when I was 6'2 165 lbs... LOL I am skinny!

    *Also I would likely move the cardio to mornings for 30min during this cycle and would run 3 or 4 times a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil-bit-SLIM View Post
    lol yeah maybe thats not that much of a cosmetic cycle...maybe I will drop the tren and extend the test to 8wks and finish up with some Clen 2wks on 2wks off 2wks on (I have also used clen in the past)...the goal is not to put on a shit load of muscle but to chizzle up some and get some more definition!

    6 wks is short but what happened to the 6wks prop/tren a/mast cycles that everyone used to run??? or atleast it seemed like everyone used to run those...

    Yeah I know the diet isnt perfect but im telling you im at 10% bf when I eat pizza, soda, burgers basically nothing but crap...I started training when I was 6'2 165 lbs... LOL I am skinny!

    *Also I would likely move the cardio to mornings for 30min during this cycle and would run 3 or 4 times a week

    Good Luck.

    Best

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    If you were to make adjustments to that diet to ensure a real cut look...what would you guys suggest???

    diet and cardio = great abs = goal of mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil-bit-SLIM View Post
    If you were to make adjustments to that diet to ensure a real cut look...what would you guys suggest???

    diet and cardio = great abs = goal of mine
    Post it in the diet section.

    Those guys are extremely smart with this subject.

    (muscle science is gifted).

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    Tren will cut you up. You can allow yourself to eat more. Do test 1-2 weeks past tren. I would recommend

    1-6 350mg tren a
    1-8 525mg test p
    4-8 75mg win

    9-12 nolva/clom pct.

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    id up the test to 8-10 weeks, do tren for 6-8 weeks...also pin ed instead of eod when your on tren

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