Sustanon Q's

**Serotonin** · 01-01-2010, 07:58 PM

Beating a dead horse but here is my deal. Done cycles in the past, 2 with Test-E and one with Test-P because I stupidly decided to try tren (which ****ing wrecked me).

Now my source has both Sustanon and Test E at 250mg per amp at the same cost. The prop gave me some serious pain, but the enanthate wasn't exactly ideal either and I haven't had the luxury of trying the other esters.

I was lookin at the sust for the immediate test, quicker crash for quicker PCT and less water retention.

Test E is good because the shots aren't bad and well, once it gets going it really works great.

I'm looking to do a light bulker here, no more than 500mg a week so I'd only do either blend 2x a week. How does sustanon pain compare to enanthate? I shoot quads most of the time and prop had me barely able to walk up steps or do leg workouts. The shit I had was UG so that could be part of it, this new stuff is all pharm grade.

What would you pick and why, or what are your experiences with either. I'm lookin more at the sustanon just to try it and the ester blends seem like given an accurate dosing schedule, it should be as good as enanthate but faster come-up and faster come-down. I do primarily BJJ with some muay thai so after cycle PCT sucks and I like to get it on and over with ASAP.

TY and I haven't been here in a while, I miss it.

**YouSeeIt** · 01-01-2010, 08:17 PM

I just began my cycle with sustanon and this is my second time using it and I like it the best out of all the other test. I have used both pharm and UG grade and i experienced the really bad speed bump in my ass, unable to walk, or workout lower body, when I used UG aas. I think that when you use UG there is a better chance of the soreness but with UG I have experienced more potent AAS. With the pharmaceutical I never felt the pain but I thought it wasnt as strong. Now this was just my personal experiance and I could be completely wrong I am not an expert by any means and I would like to hear from a more experienced user the real answer. Other than that sus awesome and I say go for it.

**Serotonin** · 01-01-2010, 08:26 PM

Yea, I'm kinda leaning that way. Not going to be using anything else but test this cycle... well idk, kinda tossin around equipoise but only if it's available.

Thanks for the input man!

**YouSeeIt** · 01-01-2010, 08:28 PM

Yeah no problem. Thats the same cycle I started today Sus, EQ, and Anadrol . I am pretty excited about it. Good Luck

**anabolic1979** · 01-01-2010, 11:23 PM

i would always stick with human drade if u can ug labs are risky. Sust is good stuff... it will give u a bit of pain but not as bad as prop. Try it out and see what you like best. i get more pain from sust that TE usually.

**TITANIUM** · 01-01-2010, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Serotonin

Beating a dead horse but here is my deal. Done cycles in the past, 2 with Test-E and one with Test-P because I stupidly decided to try tren (which ****ing wrecked me).

Now my source has both Sustanon and Test E at 250mg per amp at the same cost. The prop gave me some serious pain, but the enanthate wasn't exactly ideal either and I haven't had the luxury of trying the other esters.

I was lookin at the sust for the immediate test, quicker crash for quicker PCT and less water retention.

Test E is good because the shots aren't bad and well, once it gets going it really works great.

I'm looking to do a light bulker here, no more than 500mg a week so I'd only do either blend 2x a week. How does sustanon pain compare to enanthate? I shoot quads most of the time and prop had me barely able to walk up steps or do leg workouts. The shit I had was UG so that could be part of it, this new stuff is all pharm grade.

What would you pick and why, or what are your experiences with either. I'm looking more at the sustanon just to try it and the ester blends seem like given an accurate dosing schedule, it should be as good as enanthate but faster come-up and faster come-down. I do primarily BJJ with some muay thai so after cycle PCT sucks and I like to get it on and over with ASAP.

TY and I haven't been here in a while, I miss it.

Sust has a 3 week pct start time after last pin, as Test E is 2.

You should not be experiencing any pain with the Test E.

I like Sust, as the esters start a bit sooner, that's it.

As far as UG labs go, some UG's are actually better than brand name.

Or just as good.

Inject in your glutes, and dump the quads if it is that much of an inconvenience post op.

Best

T

**Ricer** · 01-02-2010, 12:38 AM

Please post your experience with Tren ....

**TITANIUM** · 01-02-2010, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Ricer

Please post your experience with Tren....

The sides wrecked him.

It does that to some for first wk or so.

Best

T

**Critical Mass** · 01-02-2010, 01:48 AM

Sustanon will suit your goals nicely.

**Serotonin** · 01-02-2010, 07:09 AM

Tren ... well first off it was UG along with my prop. When I got the shit it was crashing out of the oil so I had to keep reheating it to inject it. This could have meant a couple of things, but I think it mainly meant the oil was supersaturated and excess was precipitating out. I can't really think of anything else because I was only doing 75mg per injection but man, the sides were just awful. I stuck with it for about a month but honestly my gains weren't that great and even using a whatman filter on the stuff (which I always did w/ UG), I ended up with a hematoma on my brachialis and then got cellulitis from my deltoid where I injected all the way down to my wrist and my arm looked like a balloon. I had to get IV antibiotics and they drained the blood out of the hematoma, and to this day I still have a knot on that area of my arm.

So, that was my horror story.

Whatever tren I had, probably ground up finaplix or something, left me with zero appetite every day and insomnia which just drives me f'in nuts. I love my sleep.

Thanks for the info fellas, I think I'm going to try some sust this time around!

**dec11** · 01-02-2010, 07:19 AM

im a big sust fan, i find tht it can be painful in the quads and most of the time i only feel it slightly in delts, did pecs once with it, suffice to say, neva again!!!lol on another note i found test e to be less effective in comparison with sust (4 cycles on it now), i've always used pharm grade on both.

**Serotonin** · 01-09-2010, 11:04 AM

Alright got my sust. I must've brain farted when lookin at its blend of test esters because I thought the longest lasting was shorter than enanthate and it isn't.

****! Oh well, looks like my PCT will be pretty much the same as last time.

Any of you guys frontload the sustanon the first week?

**dec11** · 01-09-2010, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Serotonin

Alright got my sust. I must've brain farted when lookin at its blend of test esters because I thought the longest lasting was shorter than enanthate and it isn't.

****! Oh well, looks like my PCT will be pretty much the same as last time.

Any of you guys frontload the sustanon the first week?

i find sust very nice to come off in comparison with test e, i havent ever had any libido issues with it, test e cycle took me around 2 months to recover from!!

**Critical Mass** · 01-09-2010, 11:39 AM

Its not a bad idea to frontload the sust.

I had the runs and flu when I ran it. Due to so many different esters?

Best to get those blood levels as stable u can as fast as u can imo.

**408gt91** · 01-09-2010, 11:58 AM

You can't go wrong with the sust. I've used it alot with little to no sides. Kicks in quick and never lets you down. I get really big off the sust and strength gains are crazy. Love it!

**Serotonin** · 01-09-2010, 12:01 PM

Ya, did Test enanthate and prop in the past and I'm really stoked to try sust! Thanks for the input fellas, I have enough for 10 weeks but only plan on cycling 8 so I may frontload that first week.

**dec11** · 01-09-2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Serotonin

Ya, did Test enanthate and prop in the past and I'm really stoked to try sust! Thanks for the input fellas, I have enough for 10 weeks but only plan on cycling 8 so I may frontload that first week.

try to get some more, ive always found the latter weeks really start to cut me up with little diet alterations, i run it to 12-14wks

**Serotonin** · 01-09-2010, 12:54 PM

Nah 8 weeks is good atm. Honestly it will take me over my weight but I'm giving myself room for PCT loss. Two cycles with tren and deca with not much break b/w really had me worried for a while, I had low test and no libido so I'm keeping things simple from now on, or until I'm done having kids and can just cruise/HRT.

**Triple Stack** · 01-09-2010, 02:30 PM

I like both but prefer Test E over Sustanon . For some reason my focus & libido would rollercoaster with the Sus at 2x/wk....meaning day 2 of injection I was a porno star but day 3 I was a unich. It improved pinning eod. The test E just would get nicer & intenser after week 4 and not abate until PCT time.

Neither casued me any pain injecting into my quads, but they are a pin cushion now & the nerves are all probably dead!

**laduem88** · 01-09-2010, 03:19 PM

prop has never hurt for me except my first cycle ever which was a prop cycle

**skeldno** · 01-09-2010, 03:27 PM

I always stic to single easters

**syd-bloke** · 01-10-2010, 05:07 PM

Currently on sus only (1000mg pw), love this shit to death! no sides, no water retention and massive power gain (for me), although at this moment (week12) I gained only 8kg of lean mass due to combining sus with t3 and low fat diet (went from 13% to 10% bf), but now i decided to run it for additional 6 weeks at higher dose (used to take 750mg pw) and higher calorie/protein diet for more gain before taking a long break. Best single compound imo and it kicked in at week 2 for me.

**ScotchGuard** · 01-10-2010, 06:50 PM

I did a 12 week sus 250 cycle at 500mg/wk. I loved it. Gained 25lbs and increased 65lbs on the bench. Broke out in acne. SUCKS! If you're prone to sides make sure you're ready for them before you start the cycle.

**dec11** · 01-10-2010, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

Currently on sus only (1000mg pw), love this shit to death! no sides, no water retention and massive power gain (for me), although at this moment (week12) I gained only 8kg of lean mass due to combining sus with t3 and low fat diet (went from 13% to 10% bf), but now i decided to run it for additional 6 weeks at higher dose (used to take 750mg pw) and higher calorie/protein diet for more gain before taking a long break. Best single compound imo and it kicked in at week 2 for me.

lol, you bumped it again mate?! last post i seen of yours you'd gone to 875. it's a fookin brilliant compound, love the stuff!!

**anabolic1979** · 01-10-2010, 10:40 PM

i almost always would choose hg over ugl its just less risky and i dont know about u but i like to use the highest possible quality products available to me when injecting something into my body. and getting what i pay for

**dec11** · 01-10-2010, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by anabolic1979

i almost always would choose hg over ugl its just less risky and i dont know about u but i like to use the highest possible quality products available to me when injecting something into my body. and getting what i pay for

yeah, im from tht school of thought too pal, you knw what your getting

**syd-bloke** · 01-11-2010, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by declan11

lol, you bumped it again mate?! last post i seen of yours you'd gone to 875. it's a fookin brilliant compound, love the stuff!!

lol, couldnt be bothered, tried to find an empty vial but there was non so i just added an extra 250! take away the morning wood even in week 12, sex drive is crazy, i thought it will go mid cycle. My gf is hiding from me! she says "enough is enough!, this is becoming a full time job for me". haha

Also i am noticing immeiate power gain above the previous power gain while i was on 750mg.

Cheers

**dec11** · 01-11-2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by syd-bloke

lol, couldnt be bothered, tried to find an empty vial but there was non so i just added an extra 250! take away the morning wood even in week 12, sex drive is crazy, i thought it will go mid cycle. My gf is hiding from me! she says "enough is enough!, this is becoming a full time job for me". haha

Also i am noticing immeiate power gain above the previous power gain while i was on 750mg.

Cheers

lol, your knob will blow up. yaeh, i may have one last blast on sust @ 1000mg pw before i keep to the milder stuff. such a gr8 all rounder!

**Serotonin** · 01-14-2010, 07:02 AM

Got the gear yesterday and was VERY happy to find each ampule was made by Organon. Crystal clear oil with mint amps. Gonna start here once I'm certain I have the time to dedicate to the training. Slightly over 1 mL per amp too.