how bad are steroids??

**Jbert22** · 01-02-2010, 08:30 PM

although the short term effects of steroids are minor, what are the long term effects?> any input would be great for the whole forum!!!

**New2Anabolic** · 01-02-2010, 08:37 PM

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**michael tyson** · 01-02-2010, 08:49 PM

very very bad. ask here, dont do any of your own research.

**romo6** · 01-02-2010, 08:51 PM

**arenawarrior** · 01-02-2010, 08:53 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid

**workoutfreak078** · 01-02-2010, 08:58 PM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Steroids+Long+Term+Side+Effects

**romo6** · 01-02-2010, 09:01 PM

^^^thats cool and funny.

**Jbert22** · 01-02-2010, 09:06 PM

asking for views from forum members. ive done research. theres a difference from reading and hearing from others

**Jbert22** · 01-02-2010, 09:24 PM

hearing from others who paste wiki answers that is

**arenawarrior** · 01-02-2010, 09:34 PM

stupid questions get stupid answers.

**TITANIUM** · 01-02-2010, 09:40 PM

I honestly believe that the chemicals they put in foods today are far worse than sides of AAS.

If both are abused, the negative consequences are of equal distress.

Best

T

**Serotonin** · 01-02-2010, 09:41 PM

Best to do after training a few years. Best to do after passing age 27. Best to do with proper diet. Best to do when you can train hard and eat hard. Best to do when you know what you're doing.

Deviate from any of that and it could really **** your HPTA in half.

**Jbert22** · 01-02-2010, 09:44 PM

thanks for the answers guys. like i said i can spell google and wiki just like anybody else. just wanted some opinions

**bjpennnn** · 01-02-2010, 09:48 PM

all in moderation my friend as in life

**Critical Mass** · 01-02-2010, 09:52 PM

Steroids kill..just sayin.

**arenawarrior** · 01-02-2010, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Serotonin

Best to do after training a few years. Best to do after passing age 27. Best to do with proper diet. Best to do when you can train hard and eat hard. Best to do when you know what you're doing.

Deviate from any of that and it could really **** your HPTA in half.

exactly true. Anything abuse an kill you. EVEN WATER. hypo hydration.

Be smart do your research.

**The Deuce** · 01-02-2010, 09:56 PM

Steroids ARE Safe.. They aren't bad for you..

CHEESE ITZ, DORITO'S, AND SODA ARE !!!!!!!!!!!!

**TITANIUM** · 01-02-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Steroids ARE Safe.. They aren't bad for you..

CHEESE ITZ, DORITO'S, AND SODA ARE !!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed!^^^

Was up Deuce?

Bought a .50

Thought you should know!

Best

T

**crazy_rocks** · 01-02-2010, 11:53 PM

bad as in good?

i.e. im so bad

**ranging1** · 01-03-2010, 12:26 AM

i think its debatable how bad steroids are

considering some people suffer alot of side effects, and others only experience very few

it varies greatly,

in the end you could experience ALOT of side effects, or very little

**TITANIUM** · 01-03-2010, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

bad as in good?

i.e. I'm so bad

I love your dam avy!

Who may be the damsel in distress?

Best

T

**crazy_rocks** · 01-03-2010, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

I love your dam avy!

Who may be the damsel in distress?

Best

T

hey T,

its the honey from wifeysworld dot com.

shes a orally obsessed housewife. i suggest you check out some of the vids and pics for yourself

**peteroy01** · 01-03-2010, 12:48 AM

it depends on how u use them as stated b4. if you use in moderation with proper protocols and PCT then i dont thinks its that bad for you as long as you have the proper time off. myself i have to take time off because of cholesterol. after running tren (for too long) the bad is up and the good is too low. hope that helps.

**TITANIUM** · 01-03-2010, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

hey T,

its the honey from wifeysworld dot com.

shes a orally obsessed housewife. i suggest you check out some of the vids and pics for yourself

I know of her oh so well.

She is freakin smoking!

Hair color threw me off abit.

I'm wondering off topic here, focus T!!!!LOL

Best

T

**crazy_rocks** · 01-03-2010, 01:02 AM

yeah i like how she changes her look now and then. she knows what shes doing. i need an older woman before its to late. im 28.

**marcus300** · 01-03-2010, 01:18 AM

The abuse of steroids can be very bad for your health,
cycling steroids as healthly as possible can still have adverse effects on certain areas in time,

**TITANIUM** · 01-03-2010, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

The abuse of steroids can be very bad for your health,
cycling steroids as healthly as possible can still have adverse effects on certain areas in time,

Yes.

Testicular dysfunction and TRT for life.

Best

T

**gunslinger2** · 01-03-2010, 02:16 AM

Lets see: Take a little dbol and test now and then with plenty of time off and proper PCT and I think 99% of people would be just fine. Go insane with the dosing with 2-4 grams of test per week, plus tren , orals and what ever the designer steroid of the day is for extended periods of time and most people will have some serious issues at some point IMO. Its common sense.

That being said there are always exceptions and people who could have some real issues with just one cycle and others who do heavy cycle for years with little issues.

**romo6** · 01-03-2010, 08:57 AM

Well there is risk in alot of things,we know the risk,and if your not willing to take the risk, then just stay the hell away from them.

**lord humongous** · 01-03-2010, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jbert22

although the short term effects of steroids are minor, what are the long term effects?> any input would be great for the whole forum!!!

im 44 now and have been on 200-400 mgs for 17 years straight now,
my hormone doctors and home physican is puzzled and glad to see all of my blood work and hormones look great, my good cholesteral has gotten alot better and my bad dropped way down, my liver count shows that of a 12 year old, so a theraputic dosage 200-600 mgs weekly shows no bad sides , at least for me, 200 mgs always seems too low to last 7 days, and 400 makes me irritable, so 300 mgs weekly has done a body good,
I didnt start hrt until my natural levels were of a 70 year old man and sported a 121 ng level,
now I sport a 999ng level all the time and I feel great:

**Jbert22** · 01-03-2010, 10:52 AM

Read that it makes the heart grow too

**number28** · 01-03-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by workoutfreak078

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Steroids+Long+Term+Side+Effects

that was cool, 'let me google that for you...'

**number28** · 01-03-2010, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jbert22

Read that it makes the heart grow too

heart is a muscle so it would make sence, i did read and have seen first hand ppl taking hgh having bigger limbs, facial structure etc...

**jg2** · 01-03-2010, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

The abuse of steroids can be very bad for your health,
cycling steroids as healthly as possible can still have adverse effects on certain areas in time,

ITS A DRUG........ STEROIDS ARE A DRUG

AND LIKE ANY OTHER DRUG.... THEY CAN BE ABUSED,AND EFFECT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.....but so does a tylenol

**crazy_rocks** · 01-03-2010, 11:49 AM

its kind of funny when you think about the sides.

the most undesired side is acne on the shoulders and back however one the the most damaging would be gyno but people have less fear getting those sides because they think they can control it.

**vaders4** · 01-03-2010, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by lord humongous

im 44 now and have been on 200-400 mgs for 17 years straight now,
my hormone doctors and home physican is puzzled and glad to see all of my blood work and hormones look great, my good cholesteral has gotten alot better and my bad dropped way down, my liver count shows that of a 12 year old, so a theraputic dosage 200-600 mgs weekly shows no bad sides , at least for me, 200 mgs always seems too low to last 7 days, and 400 makes me irritable, so 300 mgs weekly has done a body good,
I didnt start hrt until my natural levels were of a 70 year old man and sported a 121 ng level,
now I sport a 999ng level all the time and I feel great:

Can you have children?

**Bonaparte** · 01-03-2010, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

its kind of funny when you think about the sides.

the most undesired side is acne on the shoulders and back however one the the most damaging would be gyno but people have less fear getting those sides because they think they can control it.

What are you talking about? Gyno is by far the most feared side (by noobs at least) and poses only a cosmetic risk. Ventricular hypertophy and organ damage would be the worst sides. (oh, and hpta/testicular shutdown are a big concern for some, but I don't want kids anyway)

**crazy_rocks** · 01-03-2010, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

What are you talking about? Gyno is by far the most feared side (by noobs at least) and poses only a cosmetic risk. Ventricular hypertophy and organ damage would be the worst sides. (oh, and hpta/testicular shutdown are a big concern for some, but I don't want kids anyway)

yeah it should be the most feared but many people fear it less because they believe it can be a simple fix with a pill if they catch it early. thats what im talking about.

**TheMilk** · 01-03-2010, 08:57 PM

how is it that this dumbass post gets soo many replies but im tryin to figure out how to use hcg and no one gives a ****!?

**crazy_rocks** · 01-03-2010, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheMilk

how is it that this dumbass post gets soo many replies but im tryin to figure out how to use hcg and no one gives a ****!?

i read your thread on that earlier. the answers given to you are pretty much what i have learned from this site and have saved in my notes. if you still dont understand what to do you can look up info posted by swifto on hcg .