Gyno Question.

[LeroyB]

Ok guys I am on my 4th week of my first cycle.
Dbol 30mg ED - weeks 1-2.5.
HCG 250iu X 2 per week - weeks 2 - 12.
Test E 250 X 2 per week - weeks 1 -12.

On day 6 I could feel my nipples were a little sore / itchy. They didn't grow in size, they do stay a little bit more protruded / hard. But that's it. I was curious as to what was causing the sides so I wanted to see if anything changed when I finished my dbol. So now I am finished my dbol, test should be kicking in (Middle of week 4) and nothing has changed or progressed. Nipples still a little tiny bit sore, I don't feel any lumps, all in all its completely tolerable and not alarming. I should mention I had a little fat there before the start of the cycle. Not that you can see, but if you pinch it you can tell.

My Questions:
1) Could the Dbol caused it and not the Test E? Therefor since the DBOL is finished the symptoms never progressed?

2)Could this be as bad as it gets for me? Meaning do some people that get "Gyno" only progress this far, because this is totally tollerable.

3) I would prefer to wait and see before taking any nolva or letro. I would only wait until ANYTHING increases (soreness / pain) or develops (lumps). Think that I am pretty safe with that approach? I have Novla and can get letro if needed.

4) If this is as bad as it gets for me (anyone else have this happen?) do you think once I start PCT in 10 weeks it will sort itself out (Nolva / Clomid). If not I could run a tiny letro dosage along with it.

Cycle is working well I feel like a monster! Lifts and size both going up fast. I do battle to get enough protein,
(not hungry enough) but I am growing!

[TITANIUM]

Ok guys I am on my 4th week of my first cycle.
Dbol 30mg ED - weeks 1-2.5.
HCG 250iu X 2 per week - weeks 2 - 12.
Test E 250 X 2 per week - weeks 1 -12.

On day 6 I could feel my nipples were a little sore / itchy. They didn't grow in size, they do stay a little bit more protruded / hard. But that's it. I was curious as to what was causing the sides so I wanted to see if anything changed when I finished my dbol. So now I am finished my dbol, test should be kicking in (Middle of week 4) and nothing has changed or progressed. Nipples still a little tiny bit sore, I don't feel any lumps, all in all its completely tolerable and not alarming. I should mention I had a little fat there before the start of the cycle. Not that you can see, but if you pinch it you can tell.

My Questions:
1) Could the Dbol caused it and not the Test E? Therefor since the DBOL is finished the symptoms never progressed? Possible, but more so the combination.
2)Could this be as bad as it gets for me? Meaning do some people that get "Gyno" only progress this far, because this is totally tolerable. Yes/No

3) I would prefer to wait and see before taking any nolva or letro. I would only wait until ANYTHING increases (soreness / pain) or develops (lumps). Think that I am pretty safe with that approach? I have Novla and can get letro if needed. Always run something for estrogen control. Your cycle is a simple one, so running nolva @ 10 mgs ed would not hinder gains.IMO.Always have an AI on hand.No exceptions.

4) If this is as bad as it gets for me (anyone else have this happen?) do you think once I start PCT in 10 weeks it will sort itself out (Nolva / Clomid). If not I could run a tiny letro dosage along with it.If you get gyno, which sounds like you just have an itchy nipple thing going on, then it gets treated priority. Like I stated, always run something.A serm blocks estrogen from attaching itself to breast tissue. An AI eradicates estrogen.They are so mis understood on the forum.

Cycle is working well I feel like a monster! Lifts and size both going up fast. I do battle to get enough protein,
(not hungry enough) but I am growing!

Best

T

[jc95605]

i think you should start taking your AI and get rid of it. Perhaps you should run a small amount of SERM like T said. Sounds like you'll need it.

[LeroyB]

Thanks for the info T and jc - Anyone else got any exp or comments.

[marcus300]

Thats why its good to run one compound in your first cycle so you know how you react to it and then when you introduce another compound and sides start to appear you know which on it is.

Dont take letro on cycle, bad idea IMHO.

Nolva will help but a-dex would be better.

Normally if syptoms appear they get worse than better without medication

[LeroyB]

Thats why its good to run one compound in your first cycle so you know how you react to it and then when you introduce another compound and sides start to appear you know which on it is.

Dont take letro on cycle, bad idea IMHO.

Nolva will help but a-dex would be better.

Normally if syptoms appear they get worse than better without medication

Yea I wont run letro during cycle it would only be if after PCT I am still like I am now.
Nolva I have and may start if things dont improve. I would like to go one more week with nothing to see if it was Dbol and then as I get father away form it I can tell.
I am very curious if they get worse or stay the same as well.
I will keep everyone updated here for future "pre-gyno sufferers".
Thanks Marcus.

[LeroyB]

Thought I would update.
It was the Dbol .
Since beeing off of it for a few weeks nipples are barely sore - if at all.
95% better than when I posted this.
I notice a lot of other sides are gone as well - Hot Skin, Sweats, Back Pumps (Damn those hurt)
My Body loves Test-E but doesn't love the Dbol.