First Cycle Questions-TrenAce+?

[DannyBoy83]

I know you guys get a lot of first timers so I'll be quick and to the point.

I play football. Sustained an injury, need a jumpstart to the offseason. After resarch I've concluded tren acetate is my steroid of choice. I've also read it is imperative to take test prop with it (cannot do enanthate due to drug testing). This is my first and only cycle I will do. I'm 6'5" 250 lbs around 13% body fat, 22 yrs old.

Question 1:
What would be a good dose EOD of the tren+prop / tren alone / prop alone? A team mate of mine took his for 8 weeks M W F tren only and loved it but I would like more opinions. My goal is not looks but purpose. I want to get the muscle I've lost back fast as well as become more explosive.

Question 2:
If I begin my cycle (presumably 6-8 wks, PCT 2 weeks) when should I be 100% clean, everything (test levels) back to normal?

Thank you for taking the time to read my questions, any and all input is greatly appreciated-I have done a lot of reading on this web site but created my name just today to make this post.

[laduem88]

tren is not a steroid to run for a first cycle.

[Ernst]

^^x2

You'll hear that from everyone. You are also too young really, and at an age of naturally high test! Juicing now could leave you with permanent complications.

[gonzo6183]

No one here will agree with your choice of cycle, age and clearly experience.
This propostion is NOT the correct path for you to take.

[Bossman]

Tren is also detectable for 5 months. It will show up on a drug test.

Train and eat right. Dont risk taking a banned substance if you'r drug tested. That's just stupid.

[Mooseman33]

i have different views then most when it comes to college athletes age for AAS,however i will reamin constant in my advice on the open boards.

as all have said, that cycle is bad.

glue urself to this board and learn and you will have your answers.
hit the diet forum/training/ and study the chems you are considering...do ur own research and do not rely on others..

[DannyBoy83]

Thanks for the replies. I have heard previously that tren wasn't the best starter, but I plan on it being the start and the end. As far as age and experience, this is the only time in my life that I will ever consider taking an AAS because I have a clear use for it. When I'm done with football (2 yrs left) I will have no need for it. The competition I play against clearly use it, and being a tight end brute strength is crucial. All that aside, I will definitely reconsider the tren, but I know prop is a fundamental steroid that is recommended for first cycles. If I ran it by itself EOD, what dose would be correct and what PCT would be appropriate?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

what level of football do you play? are you trying to make it to the pros or something? simply training well and eating right isnt the best advice IMO if you are playing for a career and lots of money at stake. I dont see anything wrong with test-p and tren -a if this will be your only cycle and you need it to be a big time player wheverer you play and can be the difference between lots of money

[DannyBoy83]

I play in a lower echelon Div. 1 conference. Going to the league is certainly not my plan for a career but I do have the size and tools to impress some scouts at the combine so it's not impossible. Before my injury and subsequent surgery I was right where I wanted to be physically, which is why Ive turned to an AAS to help me get back what I previously had (for example,On the bench I was doing low rep sets with 350-375, 225x21-Im now having trouble doing 225 for a set of 8). To the original replies about it being a bad cycle, can you elaborate? And now that you know my purpose/position/background could you offer any suggestions? A good diet and training hard is a given-I need something more

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I play in a lower echelon Div. 1 conference. Going to the league is certainly not my plan for a career but I do have the size and tools to impress some scouts at the combine so it's not impossible. Before my injury and subsequent surgery I was right where I wanted to be physically, which is why Ive turned to an AAS to help me get back what I previously had (for example,On the bench I was doing low rep sets with 350-375, 225x21-Im now having trouble doing 225 for a set of 8). To the original replies about it being a bad cycle, can you elaborate? And now that you know my purpose/position/background could you offer any suggestions? A good diet and training hard is a given-I need something more

to be honest, if this will be your only cycle ever and its for football purposes, i think u can prob to prop-ace although I wouldnt recommend it. But if you want to impress scouts at the combine and wont do another cycle after this one, I can understand your reasoning. it is prob the best cycle as far as gains though if u were to stack 2 things

[ReX357]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't tren kill your cardio? Wouldn't that be a bad side effect for football?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't tren kill your cardio? Wouldn't that be a bad side effect for football?

oh crap yea I forgot about that. Ive never done tren but I hear it is killer on the cardio and you will be out of breath really easily

[DannyBoy83]

Ive heard/read it varies from person to person, and that it isn't a drastic problem. I'm in fairly good shape already but my hardcore conditioning doesnt start until july so i plan to be well of off this by then.

I'm a little disappointed with the first few replies, you guys were so quick to blurt out how bad a cycle it was but have yet to respond to anything else

[6ft5]

I'm 6ft5 245 but was 31 a few monts ago did tren a at the end of a cycle at 100 eod that s**t is strong! Did it for only 3wks freakn flipt out. So I put it up. But got hella pumps in tha gym. But had to slow down a bit cuz its kinda hard to breath. I would bump up aminos and a pre workout shake or a chickn samy. Throw in sum NO and recovery fuel.