18 y/o on 200 mgs of test e

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 02:43 PM

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**stack_it** · 01-13-2010, 02:49 PM

You don't need to use test especially such a low dose. The 200 my does not add to your natural test like it seems you think it does. It shuts down your natural production and at your age youre natural test is through the roof. You're going to do some damage to yourself and using the "well I have so I gotta use it" excuse is dumb. If some one came up and handed you some crack and heroin would you use it just because you already have it. Those drugs are bad and so is test at your age.

**Dont wanna be old** · 01-13-2010, 02:49 PM

No , It's a bad idea .

Do not use steroids .

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 02:50 PM

If you have been researching for 3 yrs and still set on running a cycle at 18 yrs old, then I question your intelligence.

***D7M*** · 01-13-2010, 02:50 PM

Completely foolish. No way to sugar coat it.

Your pct sucks, and at 18 you want to risk future problems by shutting yourself down and only taking 100mg/wk?

You obviously haven't researched for three years, and if you did, it wasn't around here.

**stack_it** · 01-13-2010, 02:52 PM

Also your 5'8 and still have potential to grow why would you wanna take the chance of fusing your growth plates. Which is likely with taking test at such a young age.

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 02:56 PM

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**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 02:57 PM

Same outcome bro!!

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 02:57 PM

Even though the cream is shit it still can shut you down.

***D7M*** · 01-13-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by jbstalion3

What about a test cream then?

c'mon man....

If you want help, you we can help you with diet and training, but no one will recommend you use at your age

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 02:58 PM

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**Reaver.** · 01-13-2010, 02:59 PM

Lol you've been researching for 3 years.....so you started researching steroids when you were 15 years old....haha sure

Oh and, you started researching steroids before you even started lifting....You sound lazy my friend.......

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:01 PM

No because it can also potentially affect your natural growth. Let us help you with diet and training and after you reach your natural potential, say in about 5 or 6 years, then look at doing a cycle.

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 03:01 PM

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**LeroyB** · 01-13-2010, 03:01 PM

Your too young to run AAS.
See Below and Rethink before you wreck your future.
AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle (Great Read)

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 03:06 PM

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**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:09 PM

Wow!! Much to do regarding your diet! Go to the diet section and ask some of those guys for help. They will give you alot of good info. I think that you are going to be amazed at how far you are going to be able to get with good diet and training....

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 03:10 PM

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**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:11 PM

When you finish in the diet section, go to the workout section. Your workout routine needs some work also!

***D7M*** · 01-13-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Wow!! Much to do regarding your diet! Go to the diet section and ask some of those guys for help. They will give you alot of good info. I think that you are going to be amazed at how far you are going to be able to get with good diet and training....

agreed, and while your at it, Stallion, you should go start a thread in the workout section, and start reading the stickies over there as well

**Reaver.** · 01-13-2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by jbstalion3

okay well my growth plates fused when i was 16, so doc says i'm all done there.. for diet i have four eggs w/ wheat toast every morning bottle of milk about an hour later, turkey sand on wheat for lunch, post training i have chicken, steak and before i go to bed i have egg whites/2 scoops of peanut butter and fat free cottage cheese.

I train about 5 days a week and have hockey everyday so thats my cardio

Monday- chest/tris
Tuesday- back/bis
Wed- lower
Thursday- core

it varies, but i get 3 days of rest in between each body part. ie, I'll do chest monday and again on friday

Alright, first off you dont even have shoulders listed..... and considering your listing your legs as "Lower" I'm going to assume you know nothing about proper training....

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:13 PM

It refreshing to see, what appears to be an intelligent young man, who will listen to advice and make responsible decisions regarding his health!!

**jbstalion3** · 01-13-2010, 03:17 PM

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**chuckt12345** · 01-13-2010, 03:20 PM

lots of natural big guys were string beans when they were 18,, your body is still growing and changing. Dont screw your hormones up now when you may have the natural potential to be big

**CanYouDigIt** · 01-13-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by jbstalion3

okay well my growth plates fused when i was 16, so doc says i'm all done there.. for diet i have four eggs w/ wheat toast every morning bottle of milk about an hour later, turkey sand on wheat for lunch, post training i have chicken, steak and before i go to bed i have egg whites/2 scoops of peanut butter and fat free cottage cheese.

I train about 5 days a week and have hockey everyday so thats my cardio

Monday- chest/tris
Tuesday- back/bis
Wed- lower
Thursday- core

it varies, but i get 3 days of rest in between each body part. ie, I'll do chest monday and again on friday

I personnaly think your stats are false, and you haven't been training for more then 2 months, your diet is horrible, your workout regime is bad, and your "research on steroids is a joke".

here's my 2 cents, go do some research on this site for workout regime, also on diet forum , and probably on how to do exercises properly, and then follow this for 4-6 months and ull probably gain 20 pounds.

and your growth plates haven't fused at 16 that's a completly lie imo.

n your way too young to cycle, GL ' Im out.

**CanYouDigIt** · 01-13-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by jbstalion3

ok, reaver, hotshot; you want a pic or something, Jesus

and yes we do want a picture, we haven't had any 18 years old yet in here that was built like a fridge, sure would give an inspiration to us.

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:27 PM

No need to be confrontational! In reading some of your posts it is very clear that you are in need of research yourself! Give the guy a break! He said he was going to learn to diet and train! He made an informed decision. Lets encourage him.

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt

and yes we do want a picture, we haven't had any 18 years old yet in here that was built like a fridge, sure would give an inspiration to us.

Also, 5'8 165 hardly qualifies as being "built like a refrig"

**CanYouDigIt** · 01-13-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Also, 5'8 165 hardly qualifies as being "built like a refrig"

Monday- chest/tris
Tuesday- back/bis
Wed- lower
Thursday- core

-> see any shoulders in here? kinda inside joke anyways.

**tboney** · 01-13-2010, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt

Monday- chest/tris
Tuesday- back/bis
Wed- lower
Thursday- core

-> see any shoulders in here? kinda inside joke anyways.

**splatter00** · 01-13-2010, 04:58 PM

look man i wont insult you, but 18 is to young.. your not done growing and trust me, its a waste of money to juice at 18..you want to hit your natural peak before even considering starting AAS.. I started a cycle at 21 which was to young. But i also have severe asthma and have had medical issues since 4 years old.. Due to all the medications i was on, my natural test levels were low, and i had a legal script.. i was running 100mg/month.. its just to help with natural test levels.. now with you running such a low dose, it will just hinder your natural test, and you wont get the results your looking for.. give it a few years and then juice, test should be run at about 500mg/week and id wait till 24-25.. i wish i would of!

PT · 01-13-2010, 05:09 PM

if all your considering is that little amount then its definatly not worth it. thats not much more then your body produces so why risk it? are you happy with your current height? you have 4 more years to grow and that can all stop after this cycle. pointless in my mind

**nilrac** · 01-13-2010, 05:15 PM

My brother started training when he was 15... still natural to this day. 230Lbs, low body fat, right hand like a freight train

. He is my idol, ahaha.

You are too young, keep training naturally. I put well over 20Lbs on in the space of a year when I first started training properly (naturally). And I was over 20. At 18, you are in a good position to make gains naturally, with naturally high test levels. Take a leaf out of my brother's book and use your natural test!

GL.

**firsttimer555** · 01-13-2010, 05:31 PM

a good diet does more then u think i wish i could go bacg to 18 and workout and diet like i do now

**TOP** · 01-13-2010, 05:48 PM

Im natural and big, i was small as shit when i started! Come visit us in the diet section and dont become a statistic!!...TOP

**MONEY AND MASS** · 01-13-2010, 06:45 PM

you should wait bro. your'e here for advise, your'e gettin it. take the advice. I don't think anyine is going to tell you to do it. Just wait do reseach for now and once your 24-25 go for it. you might grow taller betwwen now and then. steroids will stunt your growth IMO

**MONEY AND MASS** · 01-13-2010, 06:48 PM

If you want higher test levels theres alot you can do

eat garlic
eat broccoli
take tribulus
take tongcat ali
take zma (my fav)
do squats
do deadlifts
develope a regimented sleeping schedual
dont drink
dont smoke
get 8-10 hours of sleep a night, evry night
piss standing

**breakbones** · 01-13-2010, 07:09 PM

Eat, age, then consider compounds.

**stevey_6t9** · 01-13-2010, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by MONEY AND MASS

If you want higher test levels theres alot you can do

eat garlic
eat broccoli
take tribulus
take tongcat ali
take zma (my fav)
do squats
do deadlifts
develope a regimented sleeping schedual
dont drink
dont smoke
get 8-10 hours of sleep a night, evry night
piss standing

piss standing?? wow i mite try that! lol