MethylTren and Prop and Anavar

[jasperhup]

Hey all,

for my next cycle I plan on running Prop 70mg ED and orals.

I was thinking 8 weeks of prop, 4 weeks to start of methyltren, and then switching over to anavar for the last 4.

Does this make sense? I figure anavar is light enough on the liver that I'll be good for 4 weeks on it even after running the meth tren .

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[D7M]

age?

cycle experience?

[laduem88]

stats, but thats seems like an interesting cycle (in a good way)..kind of hard on the liver though

[Vitruvian-Man]

thats seems like an interesting cycle (in a good way)..kind of hard on the liver though

IMO no oral should be ran consecutively post methyl-tren . MT is the most liver toxic steroid produced. Four weeks on MT will tax your liver like no other.. and anavar can still have a standing impact on your lipid profiles / liver values even though it's considered a 'mild' steroid.

... I wonder why it is that everyone forgets those two important aspects of 'stats'

[laduem88]

not to mention var is mild but when you run it @ 80-100 , just because its mild when you run it at a good dose it wont be as mild as people think

[jasperhup]

i'm 32. one cycle and years of lifting and competitive athletics.

so would i better off just upping my dosage of prop, or going 500mg throughout and just not doing anything after the methtren?

i'd be doing .5 g a day of mtren and 40mg a day of anavar .

feed back is appreciated, thanks.

[laduem88]

i'm 32. one cycle and years of lifting and competitive athletics.

so would i better off just upping my dosage of prop, or going 500mg throughout and just not doing anything after the methtren?

i'd be doing .5 g a day of mtren and 40mg a day of anavar .

feed back is appreciated, thanks.

1. you dont do oral tren after only doing one cycle

2. .5g of oral tren!!! i hope you mean .5mg

[CoreyJoseph]

yea conversion for ya I hope he ment .5mg because thats 500mcg but .5g would be 5000mg and 50000mcg = DEATH

[laduem88]

yea conversion for ya I hope he ment .5mg because thats 500mcg but .5g would be 5000mg and 50000mcg = DEATH

lol what would happen if someone where to take that much? like im sure they would die but would it be quick and painless?

[D7M]

1. You dont do oral tren after only doing one cycle

2. .5g of oral tren!!! I hope you mean .5mg

....x2!

[Rex9933]

idk if u should even run the mt. anavar for 4 weeks is too short anyway dude

[jasperhup]

yes, of course I mean 500mcg per day.

so what would be the problem doing methyltren for the 2nd cycle? I understand tren is harsh, but by all accounts this is less harsh than tren ace, and I could just discontinue it if sides get bad. the short halflife has to be a much safer thing than regular tren.

any more input is appreciated, I hear the idea loud and clear that even var might be too much after, but would you guys up the prop in weeks 5-8 or just keep it the same?

[Rex9933]

yes, of course I mean 500mcg per day.

so what would be the problem doing methyltren for the 2nd cycle? I understand tren is harsh, but by all accounts this is less harsh than tren ace, and I could just discontinue it if sides get bad. the short halflife has to be a much safer thing than regular tren.

any more input is appreciated, I hear the idea loud and clear that even var might be too much after, but would you guys up the prop in weeks 5-8 or just keep it the same?

methyltren is more harsh than inject tren dude

[Vitruvian-Man]

yes, of course I mean 500mcg per day.

so what would be the problem doing methyltren for the 2nd cycle? I understand tren is harsh, but by all accounts this is less harsh than tren ace, and I could just discontinue it if sides get bad. the short halflife has to be a much safer thing than regular tren.

any more input is appreciated, I hear the idea loud and clear that even var might be too much after, but would you guys up the prop in weeks 5-8 or just keep it the same?

MT is much harsher on the body then injectable tren. It's liver toxicity cannot be over-exaggerated IMO..

Anyways... Why don't you just do something like this:

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 80 - 100mg ED

A high dosage of anavar will have similar cutting & hardening effects to tren. If you can't afford it, you could always run the var for the last 6 weeks instead.

I would even suggest T-bol and var over var / MT. (If you're dead set on running 2 orals for some reason.... (IE)

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 40 - 50mg ED
T-bol (weeks 1 - 8) @ 50mg ED

[Rex9933]

MT is much harsher on the body then injectable tren . It's liver toxicity cannot be over-exaggerated IMO..

Anyways... Why don't you just do something like this:

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 80 - 100mg ED

A high dosage of anavar will have similar cutting & hardening effects to tren. If you can't afford it, you could always run the var for the last 6 weeks instead.

I would even suggest T-bol and var over var / MT. (If you're dead set on running 2 orals for some reason.... (IE)

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 40 - 50mg ED
T-bol (weeks 1 - 8) @ 50mg ED

ive heard the same on the high dose var. my friend swears by it. he said that its the only aas that rivals tren at 100mg/ed

[jasperhup]

wow, some really helpful feed back guys, i am taking it on board.

now I have heard that mtren is harsh, but that it's a better tren introduction since if it is too harsh its short half life allows for a quick ending of the experiment.

I mean I know the orthodoxy says that one should do 4 or 5 cycles and then run tren ace, but there is actually a larger commitment to that compound vs Mtren, and I've read some differing opinions (basically that after a cycle or two you should understand what you need to do and if you can take tren or not you'll know only when you try).

I very much appreciate the standard board thinking and it has been extremely helpful, but BJJ and a couple of others have sort have bucked the trends and also got some good results, so I like to turn over every stone before making my final choice.

[Rex9933]

no problem. thats why we hear dogg

[jasperhup]

either way, if i get the mtren cheap i'll try it for the first week, if i feel messed or my liver values go nuts i'll stop and do the 500mg/week prop 80mg/day var for 8 weeks.

then i'll be jack J Jacked, mayor of jackedville USA

[Rex9933]

hahahah. never heard that before!

[Vitruvian-Man]

then i'll be jack J Jacked, mayor of jackedville USA

.... how old did you say you were again...?

lolll just kidding

[jasperhup]

hahaha, i'm 32 and a respected professional in finance. i suppose i have a less than savory side too!

[laduem88]

hahahah. never heard that before!

HAHA x2 im going to start saying that

[Rex9933]

im thinking about it lol

[jasperhup]

all the ar bros are welcome to use my lines (i have a ton of em) but please, credit where it's due!

[Rex9933]

all the ar bros are welcome to use my lines (i have a ton of em) but please, credit where it's due!

hahah u got it! what are your other lined then bro?

[gymnerd]

I would run the var for 8wks and loose the MT.

[Rex9933]

^ have u run mt before?

[gymnerd]

^ have u run mt before?

No, but I have run var and 4wks is a waste should be 6-8wks atleast 50mg ED IMO. I would not run any other oral with or directly after MT I actually feel that way with any oral seeing how MT is the most toxic AAS you can take I would double that suggestion.

[Rex9933]

4 weeks is way too short. if i run it, i'll def go 80-100mg for 8 weeks or so. gotta get the most of it

[laduem88]

4 weeks is way too short. if i run it, i'll def go 80-100mg for 8 weeks or so. gotta get the most of it

yessir, cant wait til i run it @ 100mg for 8 weeks

[RANA]

You might want to look into halo, drop the MT

[jasperhup]

wow, a lot of anti MT statements.

Is this because guys have gotten bad results from it, or that it isn't good for me because I'm on my 2nd cycle?

i did look into halo, and it is something i want to try, but don't think it's available to me right now, so it's var or mt. tnx tho.

[Rex9933]

becaue its ur second cycle. mt gives great results dude..

[laduem88]

MT is amazing from what iv heard from everyone, its not that its bad, its because theres no reason for you to take it as part of a 2nd or even 3rd cycle. stick to var. as far as halo unless your purely going for strength or pre contest dont do it.

[Rex9933]

id say stick to var also. u have enough time to run mt in the future bro. no rush. especially with that compound!

[binsser]

change ur tren m8 honest dont bother with mt at all in anyway its bad news bud honest use tren ace instead its safer bud!

[Rex9933]

change ur tren m8 honest dont bother with mt at all in anyway its bad news bud honest use tren ace instead its safer bud!

i think i'll have to agree with this. i think i read in the profile here, they said 1mg of mt equals 300mg of tren ace lol. damn is all i have to stay

[Schmidty]

wow, a lot of anti MT statements.

Is this because guys have gotten bad results from it, or that it isn't good for me because I'm on my 2nd cycle?

i did look into halo, and it is something i want to try, but don't think it's available to me right now, so it's var or mt. tnx tho.

i FVCKN LOVE MT it cuts way better then tren and makes me stronger then when im on drol but its not sumthing that should be taken lightly at all and u need a fair amountof experince if ur gona use it. I love oral steroids way way more then inj, i get a real jacked feeling from orals that i dont really get form any inj. if ur anything like me and i guess u wouldnt really know yet if u are seeing how u have only done one cycle but if u feel like u have to run a oral use var or tbol through ur cycle. BTW im not saying i run orals through my whole cycle im just saying i get a feeling from orals that are unmatched by any inj

[jasperhup]

I've taken all of this on board and I'm going straight prop and var yo!

i think 3rd or 4th cycle (buying enough for next 2, so will do my prop var 2x most likely) i might rock out with my glock out and go tren , but injectable is really cheap given how fkn strong it is (vs var, prop and mast). will run hcg , have my pct down pat, training like a mexican fence jumper.

im even moving closer to the gym so i'll be able to bike there and shit.

[Rex9933]

I've taken all of this on board and I'm going straight prop and var yo!

i think 3rd or 4th cycle (buying enough for next 2, so will do my prop var 2x most likely) i might rock out with my glock out and go tren , but injectable is really cheap given how fkn strong it is (vs var, prop and mast). will run hcg , have my pct down pat, training like a mexican fence jumper.

im even moving closer to the gym so i'll be able to bike there and shit.

how much var u donna run?