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    new cycle need some advice

    40mg d-bol week 1-5
    800mg test cy week 1-8
    400mg test prop week 5-12
    500mg deca 300 week 1-12
    winstrol or tren enthane 8-12 (dont know which one would benifit me more)

    my next qustion is how can i keep my abs good a cut up in a cycle like this in the beginning while on d-bol? can i take water pills to keep the water retention of my face? and my last qustion is could i use clen to stay toned in the first few weeks or would that be pointless? any advice is helpful!!

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    Stats? age? cycle exp? goals??

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    I do not recommend that cycle for you....

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    Stats and cycle history?

    I would pick one: either use the short ester (prop) until the cyp kicks in, or use the dbol to kickstart. You don't need both.

    I wouldn't use tren enth for only 4 weeks.

    And if you're concerned about water retention use an AI, not a diuretic.

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    24/ 185lb/ 6 '0 ive done 5 cycle but none where done correctly thats why im asking for help i wanna do it right. i want to bulk but still stayed pretty toned.

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    You have to many chemicals in my opinion. If you are bulking you are going to have to deal with some bloat. Dont deprive your body of electrolytes by using diuretics. Like D7M said if your bloat gets bad, due to estro, take an AI and keep sodium intake in check..

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