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    please help (URGENT)

    i started a cycle of 500mg sustanon each week and 50mg anadrol per day and 30mg dianabol , after first injection sex drive was crazy,like its never been before, then after my 2nd injection started decreasing over a few days now 2 and a half weeks in, absolutely nothing,it doesnt make sense so wats going on?????? any input is greatly appreciated

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    Blood work will indicate whether or not you have some estro issues. Age? stats? cycle exp.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabregas4444 View Post
    i started a cycle of 500mg sustanon each week and 50mg anadrol per day and 30mg dianabol, after first injection sex drive was crazy,like its never been before, then after my 2nd injection started decreasing over a few days now 2 and a half weeks in, absolutely nothing,it doesnt make sense so wats going on?????? any input is greatly appreciated
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    do you have any pct?
    what's ur injection schedule like(when do you inject?)

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    bunk gear?

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    Along with the other questions:

    Are you taking any AI's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    bunk gear?
    possible, he could have had a placebo effect during the first couple weeks that leveled out, but normally it takes a couple weeks for sex drive to kick in, so my guess is that the first sex drive spike was psychosomatic and the test just hasn't kicked in yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    possible, he could have had a placebo effect during the first couple weeks that leveled out, but normally it takes a couple weeks for sex drive to kick in, so my guess is that the first sex drive spike was psychosomatic and the test just hasn't kicked in yet
    Most plausible explaination,

    The aas are prob real unless the sex drive falling of is also psychosomatic.

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    ^^^^ i was thinking the same considering how everyone loves to brag n how much better it is. If you think your a horny juiced monster then your body can sometimes make you fell that way? Just a thought cuz after one shot... I never got sex drive increase n first shot? But maybe phate is right with the placebo affect.

    "dirty d"

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    Quote Originally Posted by "DIRTY D" SANCHEZ View Post
    ^^^^ i was thinking the same considering how everyone loves to brag n how much better it is. If you think your a horny juiced monster then your body can sometimes make you fell that way? Just a thought cuz after one shot... I never got sex drive increase n first shot? But maybe phate is right with the placebo affect.

    "dirty d"
    It reminds me of a friend of mine, he took a bunch of cough gel caps that had a compound in them that is a dissociative hallucinogen and he didn't know it, well i did and told him and 30 minutes later he was trippin big time, then i looked and realized he had just taken the recommended amount, after i told him the hallucinations stopped

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    no AI,s and i inject every sunday

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    Is your sex drive worse than before you started your cycle?

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    Split your injections to twice a week.
    Use an AI.
    Have you had any other possible or neg sides?

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    i know my gears not bunk, my karachi sus are exactly the same as real ones ive seen through the searching on google, yellow laser print, black dot matrix exp date

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    While you're getting responses, read this through(especially the pct parts), then you'll be better able to ask us questions and we'll be able to help more

    TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO

    here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
    first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

    Diet

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
    UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
    Appetite For Construction
    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

    only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

    1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

    split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

    if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

    btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

    Test Enth
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate

    Dianabol
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)

    Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

    Pheendo's PCT
    Pheedno's PCT

    while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

    Anthony Roberts PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

    WarMachine's ~Gyno Prevention, Gyno Treatment, and Letro Reversals Explained
    "Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"


    Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

    All You Need To Know About Gyno

    All you need to know about GYNO.

    that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

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    I am concerned with all 3 points

    Where did you get the idea and knowledge to do this cycle?

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    get a little sweaty at night,nothing too bad, and some spots on my back between 10 and 20, and t boney it was better before my cycle, it cudnt have been placebo becoz i cudnt help but think about sex,even wen i tried not too, now im saying to my gf im not in the mood

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    I see. then I will refer to my original response. Get some blood work. This could be estro related and you will need an AI.

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    thanks for the time to message all that phate will definately read through all that

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    what would be the best a i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabregas4444 View Post
    thanks for the time to message all that phate will definately read through all that
    I typed it a long time ago, it's a sticky in this section, there's also a Link Database that you can look over with alot of good threads in it, here ya go

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355504

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    arimidex or aromasin during cycle are the best choices

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    ive read a divided opinion about frequency regarding injecting sus. id say 50% maybe a bit less say once a week is fine, but if ur telling me twice a week is better then id give it a go, what would be the benefits to this?

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    Your stats are pretty bad. Everything down to the fact that you're taking two orals and injecting all of youe sust once a week. Have you down any research on steroids before this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabregas4444 View Post
    ive read a divided opinion about frequency regarding injecting sus. id say 50% maybe a bit less say once a week is fine, but if ur telling me twice a week is better then id give it a go, what would be the benefits to this?
    well the half-life of enth or cyp is pretty close to 14 days if i remember correctly, and a general rule of thumb is to shoot half of the halflife, the reason being that doing that will allow for a uniform absorption of the testosterone , resulting in more stable blood levels

    that being said, gains from shooting once a week or twice a week should be equal as the amount of testosterone that is actually being administered is the same, but the amount of conversion to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme will be higher in the person that has less stable blood serum levels causing more sides

    I'll explain in more detail if you like but that's the gist of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabregas4444 View Post
    ive read a divided opinion about frequency regarding injecting sus. id say 50% maybe a bit less say once a week is fine, but if ur telling me twice a week is better then id give it a go, what would be the benefits to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
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    what's the point of that? aside from taking up bandwidth

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    very constructive twotimer, its no wonder some ppl are reluctant to post becoz of immature remarks like that, myself included, maybe u wont see the funny side so much if u need help with something,and someone gives a response like yours, to everyone else thanks for your advice nice to know this forum is a great help, got a docs appointment tomorrow, so i,ll message back what the results of my bloods are

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabregas4444 View Post
    very constructive twotimer, its no wonder some ppl are reluctant to post becoz of immature remarks like that, myself included, maybe u wont see the funny side so much if u need help with something,and someone gives a response like yours, to everyone else thanks for your advice nice to know this forum is a great help, got a docs appointment tomorrow, so i,ll message back what the results of my bloods are
    Bro dont react to this guy! He is obviously a knucklehead. You will be fine. Get an AI and keep us posted on your bloodwork results.

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    so if my estrogen is too high, wud an AI get my sex drive back ?

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    If too much estro is the problem, then yes an AI will help. You can get some adex or aromasin from AR-R . Adex at .5 eod. or Aromasin at 12.5 ed. Stop the day before your pct. Then use nolva/clomid or clomid/torem or torem/nolva for pct.

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