WILL I NEED AAS TO BUILD MUSCLE NOW THAT I AM IN MY 30s????

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Hi.

I am 31 years old and I wanderin if need AAS to build mucle once my bf is below 25.

I have been goin to the gym for a few years on and off but I was using resistance machines and not using dumbells.

I only started using dumbells properly last year.

I know for a fact that ur test levels are at their highest whwn u r a teen (AAS a DEFINATE NO NO then)!!!!....

Once u reach ur early 30s ur test and hgh levels n begin to drop because u r not growin nemore.

Will I have problems building muscle now?

Do u think taking AAS will help me build muscle now that I am in my 30s?

Respect

[stack_it]

Go to your dr and have bloodwork done to test all your levels. That will give you a definate answer. It depends on the individual not the age. Although the chances are higher the older you get.

[buffgator]

Steroids always help to build muscles, but its your experience, health, goals, ect that help more so to determine if you should use them. I would not even worry about aas if you say that your bf% is over 25. I would focus more on a consistent diet and excersise routine right now.

[NVR2BIG1]

No, you wont have any problems. Its not like you've been training heavy a long time and you've only hit a plateau because of testosterone . You still have plenty of testosterone in you to build muscle, and getting in the gym raises your test levels naturally anyways. Now I on the other hand have been using gear on and off since I was 19. I am 29 now, I took 6 months off and never felt like I came back. I am 253 lbs right now fairly lean at 5'9", if this were myself we were speaking of I'd definitely say no. You on the other hand still can.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Go to your dr and have bloodwork done to test all your levels. That will give you a definate answer. It depends on the individual not the age. Although the chances are higher the older you get.

I am plannin on seein my doc 2 have total blood work done neway!

I have beeh meanin to have my t level measurered 4 a long time.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Steroids always help to build muscles, but its your experience, health, goals, ect that help more so to determine if you should use them. I would not even worry about aas if you say that your bf% is over 25. I would focus more on a consistent diet and excersise routine right now.

got a good diet and exercise plan

doin more cardio n ashtanga yoga sson

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

No, you wont have any problems. Its not like you've been training heavy a long time and you've only hit a plateau because of testosterone. You still have plenty of testosterone in you to build muscle, and getting in the gym raises your test levels naturally anyways. Now I on the other hand have been using gear on and off since I was 19. I am 29 now, I took 6 months off and never felt like I came back. I am 253 lbs right now fairly lean at 5'9", if this were myself we were speaking of I'd definitely say no. You on the other hand still can.

ok

i work at home with dumbbells

[NVR2BIG1]

See, let me explain the big issue brother. The problem with starting in your 30's is because your levels are a little lower than they were in your teens and 20's, it will always be harder to bounce back after you stop cycling. Recovery was always easy for me prior to 27 or 28 yrs old, and then it got harder and longer every time until this past time it was so difficult that I said screw it, and I'm probably going to need to be on test for good if I wanna have any quality of life. Your going to get old, and your going to feel old as you get older, it sux but its just part of life. You can do testosterone and improve the quality of life, but you dont want to do just a cycle or two because when discontinued it'll make it even harder. Commit to HRT or use things like Yohimbe and tribulus. MY .02

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

See, let me explain the big issue brother. The problem with starting in your 30's is because your levels are a little lower than they were in your teens and 20's, it will always be harder to bounce back after you stop cycling. Recovery was always easy for me prior to 27 or 28 yrs old, and then it got harder and longer every time until this past time it was so difficult that I said screw it, and I'm probably going to need to be on test for good if I wanna have any quality of life. Your going to get old, and your going to feel old as you get older, it sux but its just part of life. You can do testosterone and improve the quality of life, but you dont want to do just a cycle or two because when discontinued it'll make it even harder. Commit to HRT or use things like Yohimbe and tribulus. MY .02

Yohimbe is good

Swifto says trinulus daz nothin 4 t levels.

REsveratrol n nettle r good IMO.

[FranciscoG]

See, let me explain the big issue brother. The problem with starting in your 30's is because your levels are a little lower than they were in your teens and 20's, it will always be harder to bounce back after you stop cycling. Recovery was always easy for me prior to 27 or 28 yrs old, and then it got harder and longer every time until this past time it was so difficult that I said screw it, and I'm probably going to need to be on test for good if I wanna have any quality of life. Your going to get old, and your going to feel old as you get older, it sux but its just part of life. You can do testosterone and improve the quality of life, but you dont want to do just a cycle or two because when discontinued it'll make it even harder. Commit to HRT or use things like Yohimbe and tribulus. MY .02

I can fully relate.

I am going 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off. My off I actually am on hcg , hmg, proscar, nolv, slin, GH, and the next week off I am putting in 10mg morn dbol and IGF1. This is not because I bored. I am in my late 30s and it aint the same as late 10s.

[buffgator]

Im approaching 30 but I havent used for 2 years now. I got tired of the ups and downs in size, strength, mood, feeling on top of the world on cycle, and then feeling horrible off cycle. I keep it natural now, and maintaine a size and strength that most who are using cant compete with and I like that. Thats not to say I wont again someday, but I have found my happy medium for now

[NVR2BIG1]

I can fully relate.

I am going 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off. My off I actually am on hcg, hmg, proscar, nolv, slin, GH, and the next week off I am putting in 10mg morn dbol and IGF1. This is not because I bored. I am in my late 30s and it aint the same as late 10s.

yes, I can tell your in my boat. the 8 wks off is pretty much just to clean the receptors out and then start again before you go from feeling shitty to super shitty right? hahahahahahaha.

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

Greak, you will still be able to put muscle on easily given a good diet and workout regimen. Cardio and yoga and all that is NOT what you need if you want to gain muscle or run aas. Cardio is good for you in many ways but bulking is not one of them. You need to focus on getting a really good diet and workout regimen in line, then you will see the muscle pack on. Adding aas into the equation of a not so great diet and workout regimen is going to do alot more negative than positive.
Best of luck

[FranciscoG]

yes, I can tell your in my boat. the 8 wks off is pretty much just to clean the receptors out and then start again before you go from feeling shitty to super shitty right? hahahahahahaha.

Pretty much,

Get that myostatin down and hope back on.

Last week I got the biggest surge in Labido I ever had, I was off for 10 days at the time. Freakin 1mg of adex killed my noodle... LOL

They joys of getting older and play around with chems.

[NVR2BIG1]

Pretty much,

Get that myostatin down and hope back on.

Last week I got the biggest surge in Labido I ever had, I was off for 10 days at the time. Freakin 1mg of adex killed my noodle... LOL

They joys of getting older and play around with chems.

I always try to look for a positive in anything. It could be a lot worse right? I mean, we could be the 400 lb guy going to his Dr. for high blood pressure and cialis anyways right? So why not be the roid head who still does what he loves and can play catch with his kid instead of just watching from the sidelines. Ya feel me bro? hahah

[FranciscoG]

I believe the great Chris Rock quote is right,

¨Hell to the YESSS¨

[dec11]

Yohimbe is good

Swifto says trinulus daz nothin 4 t levels.

REsveratrol n nettle r good IMO.

thts quite correct, trib is rubbish snipey, dont waste your cash on it

[ranging1]

thts quite correct, trib is rubbish snipey, dont waste your cash on it

thats debatable, trib actually has been shown to increase testerone levels dramaticaly in alot of people, aswell as sex drive

HOWEVER it also been shown that trib only actually works for on average 1 in every 2 males

i personaly when using a tribulus products notice an increase in sex drive, aswell as some people i know who use it

while i know others who say its garbage

guess its depends on whether or not you respond well to it

[LeroyB]

In short No. GWS yous been on here a long time. are you lifting yet, eatting, all that jazz, or are you just messing about. No Offense.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

I believe the great Chris Rock quote is right,

¨Hell to the YESSS¨

Chris Rock rules!

He is awesome in Rush Hour 1 and 2!

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

In short No. GWS yous been on here a long time. are you lifting yet, eatting, all that jazz, or are you just messing about. No Offense.

got a good from TOP that I stuvk 2 and I lift 4 times a week now!

mon - arms
tues - legs
wed - abs (soon abs n pecs)
thur - shoulders

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

thats debatable, trib actually has been shown to increase testerone levels dramaticaly in alot of people, aswell as sex drive

HOWEVER it also been shown that trib only actually works for on average 1 in every 2 males

i personaly when using a tribulus products notice an increase in sex drive, aswell as some people i know who use it

while i know others who say its garbage

guess its depends on whether or not you respond well to it

sm1 told me in a store that trib does work but the evidence is anedotal at best.

it depends u r usin aswekll as the person.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

thts quite correct, trib is rubbish snipey, dont waste your cash on it

true, so true

fenugreek n longjack dont work either.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

thanx 2 everybody 4 their advice.

really helped.

[BJJ]

There is a lot of confusion regarding this topic.

The human body is regulated so as to be able to create new proteins (joined together they form muscles, said in a easy way) till a certain age, usually 21 yo.
After that, one's organism cannot build anymore proteins naturally, therefore CANNOT create anymore muscles. One can only rely on what achieved till the developed age has come.

In your case, which was also mine, your body stopped producing new proteins by amino acids to be joined into new muscles fibres, since a few years already.
You can literally kill yourself into the gym and eat amazing amount of macro nutrients but the only thing you will achieve is to make bigger your own proteins... not to make new ones.

To answer your question, yes with aas you can either increase the size of your own proteins or make new ones.

Think it like this:

Testosterone and all derived substances:
You have a building and can, with those aas, increase the floors of it only.

HGH
You can build new buildings over the one you already have.

Hope I was clear.
So, either you want new floors or a new building, Good Luck with your cycle.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

There is a lot of confusion regarding this topic.

The human body is regulated so as to be able to create new proteins (joined together they form muscles, said in a easy way) till a certain age, usually 21 yo.
After that, one's organism cannot build anymore proteins naturally, therefore CANNOT create anymore muscles. One can only rely on what achieved till the developed age has come.

In your case, which was also mine, your body stopped producing new proteins by amino acids to be joined into new muscles fibres, since a few years already.
You can literally kill yourself into the gym and eat amazing amount of macro nutrients but the only thing you will achieve is to make bigger your own proteins... not to make new ones.

To answer your question, yes with aas you can either increase the size of your own proteins or make new ones.

Think it like this:

Testosterone and all derived substances:
You have a building and can, with those aas, increase the floors of it only.

HGH
You can build new buildings over the one you already have.

Hope I was clear.
So, either you want new floors or a new building, Good Luck with your cycle.

Yo bruv.

U have helped me so much in these weeks!

Thanks SO MUCH!

I really appreciated it!

This is one of the best answers so far on the topic!

I need the HGH for immune system, ligament n tendon formation when on test - as we know to much test hinders their formation and supresses immune system will estro, hgh and progesterone boost it.

I am not sure bout var, primo, eq, deca n winnie tho?

[BJJ]

Yo bruv.

U have helped me so much in these weeks!

Thanks SO MUCH!

I really appreciated it!

This is one of the best answers so far on the topic!

I need the HGH for immune system, ligament n tendon formation when on test - as we know to much test hinders their formation and supresses immune system will estro, hgh and progesterone boost it.

I am not sure bout var, primo, eq, deca n winnie tho?

No problem, pleasure.

However, I would not run HGH on my first cycle.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Greak, you will still be able to put muscle on easily given a good diet and workout regimen. Cardio and yoga and all that is NOT what you need if you want to gain muscle or run aas. Cardio is good for you in many ways but bulking is not one of them. You need to focus on getting a really good diet and workout regimen in line, then you will see the muscle pack on. Adding aas into the equation of a not so great diet and workout regimen is going to do alot more negative than positive.
Best of luck

my diet n trainin r in check.

im strength buildin n fat burnin at the mo.

im considerin doin a 6-8wk var cycle n provo to help wit fat burnin n strength.

the yogai is part of cardio n my flexibility trainin.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

No problem, pleasure.

However, I would not run HGH on my first cycle.

wat would help with lig n tendon formation?

sm1 said on anotha forum to run eithja deca , eq, var or primo with the test because they aid in the crross stitchin of tendons n ligs?

i may do var or primo with t prop.

Deca is a no no for beginners because its progestenic nature suppress endo test a hell of alot!

winnie is v. harsh on the liver n hdl/ldl!

[BJJ]

wat would help with lig n tendon formation?

sm1 said on anotha forum to run eithja deca , eq, var or primo with the test because they aid in the crross stitchin of tendons n ligs?

i may do var or primo with t prop.

Deca is a no no for beginners because its progestenic nature suppress endo test a hell of alot!

winnie is v. harsh on the liver n hdl/ldl!

I would run oxandrolone with test prop.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

I would run oxandrolone with test prop.

me 2 var n test prop.

would u run var with test e, sust, test c aswell?

does var benefit ur immune system like deca n primo?

vit c will help alot wit immune system!

[BJJ]

me 2 var n test prop.

would u run var with test e, sust, test c aswell? yes

does var benefit ur immune system like deca n primo? not sure but it does post burn
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1959346/


vit c will help alot wit immune system!

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[FCVtec]

How come no one mention he is not including chest or back in his routine... Did I miss something?

[dec11]

thats debatable, trib actually has been shown to increase testerone levels dramaticaly in alot of people, aswell as sex drive

HOWEVER it also been shown that trib only actually works for on average 1 in every 2 males

i personaly when using a tribulus products notice an increase in sex drive, aswell as some people i know who use it

while i know others who say its garbage

guess its depends on whether or not you respond well to it

its not debatable, its crap , period. ive seen more than enuf sports text books studies on it, and it produces nada

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

How come no one mention he is not including chest or back in his routine... Did I miss something?

i dnt av equipment 2 do back stuff.

i cannot do chess stuff without a workout bench....

i cannot do pressups n they give me backaches.

i am seein the doc on monday bout back problems n total bloddwork.

[ghettoboyd]

honestly bro if you dont have the equipment or access to a gym than your wasting your time and money....and no you dont need aas to grow after 30yrs old....i started lifting seriously 7 years ago at age 31 and i gained muscle at a steady pace through proper diet and exercise....i just finnaly cycled this year after i trained natty for 6 years.....i guess my point is that you have to put the work in with heavy ass weights and eat properly and you will see results....it sounds as though you really havent even done that yet....good luck....

[buffgator]

you have allot if ducks to line up before using aas my friend. If nobody else says it I will. Your not ready for them yet

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

you have allot if ducks to line up before using aas my friend. If nobody else says it I will. Your not ready for them yet

i ant bulkin yet

i am cuttin, fat burnin n strength buildin

wat do i need?

will i b ready by april?

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

honestly bro if you dont have the equipment or access to a gym than your wasting your time and money....and no you dont need aas to grow after 30yrs old....i started lifting seriously 7 years ago at age 31 and i gained muscle at a steady pace through proper diet and exercise....i just finnaly cycled this year after i trained natty for 6 years.....i guess my point is that you have to put the work in with heavy ass weights and eat properly and you will see results....it sounds as though you really havent even done that yet....good luck....

i kna im not ready 4 aas

im planin on gettin a flat bench 4 home this week n sm back equipment

im actually fat burnin, strengh buildin n cuttin at the mo

i wa goin 2 use var wit proviron 2 build strength n help meget rid of excess fat.

it actuazlly depends on the person.

[*Thiago*]

thats debatable, trib actually has been shown to increase testerone levels dramaticaly in alot of people, aswell as sex drive

HOWEVER it also been shown that trib only actually works for on average 1 in every 2 males

i personaly when using a tribulus products notice an increase in sex drive, aswell as some people i know who use it

while i know others who say its garbage

guess its depends on whether or not you respond well to it

On the trib subject, as you stated works on 1 out of 2 ...

But which brand and at what dosage/potency ?? Which one do you use/recommend ?