New lean mass cycle

**JMan06** · 01-26-2010, 02:37 PM

My goal on this cycle is to gain some lean muscle and loose a bit of fat. I wanted to run prop and tren for 8 weeks and clen for the first 4. 500mgs for the prop and 400mgs for tren. Do you recommend tren a or e?

Here are my questions... I am very gyno prone, so I was looking for an anti estrogen to use throughout my cycle. A friend of mine recommended using arimidex he also said it helped with the acne and water retention. Is this true? What is my best option for this? I also heard of people using hcg throughout? I wanted to take whatever necessary to eliminate as much sides as possible from estrogen acne and body hair growth.

Another problem of mine is hair growth. My last cycle was 12 weeks of prop npp and tbol, it caused increased hair thickness on shoulders and upper back. Since tren is highly androgenic would this be bad to use? Is there anything you can recommend taking?

**JMan06** · 01-26-2010, 02:39 PM

side note: can dht blockers stop body hair growth?

**glover** · 01-26-2010, 03:04 PM

I would recommend tren a with the prop. Arimidex , if thats how you spell it, is good for your goals also aromasin will work. Yes both can help with water retention and acne, however water retention should be fairly manageble with prop and tren a just use if gyno issues arise.

Body hair. Well for that don't take test and it won't be an issue. Otherwise if your prone you can't stop it only remove it.

**ReX357** · 01-26-2010, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by glover

Body hair. Well for that don't take test and it won't be an issue. Otherwise if your prone you can't stop it only remove it.

What kind of shit advice is that? Don't run test with it? Are you f*cking kidding me or what?

Don't listen to this guy.

Tren A you'll want to run with the prop. And arimidex at .25 every other day should take care of the estro related sides.

**HuntMan** · 01-26-2010, 03:55 PM

^^^Agree 100% .. No test with Tren ???? WTF

**JMan06** · 01-26-2010, 04:37 PM

What a bout dht blockers to help prevent back n shoulder hair growth? Like taking finastride or proscar??

**JMan06** · 01-26-2010, 04:40 PM

Also isn't tren highly androgenic so wouldn't it be a bad choice for hair growth? Or is it okay cause its a 19nor and not a dht? If its bad would you be able to recommend something else to use with prop?

**glover** · 01-26-2010, 04:42 PM

If you could read then you would know that I did not recommend not running test with tren . I answered his question about body hair. Test will grow body hair.

I suggest you read OP before commenting on answer's.

DHT blockers prevent hair loss not hair growth. And yes the tren and deca will not cause body hair growth anywhere near the test.

It's like I said before if your going to take test you will have to live with body hair growth if you are predisposed to it.
(For the folks on here who can't follow that is not a recommendation to use or not use anything not mentioned in previous sentence.)

**JMan06** · 01-26-2010, 06:07 PM

Because tren is highly androgenic (i read here that its 5 times more so then test) wouldnt this be a bad drug in regards to body hair growth? Would I be better off with another 19nor?

**ReX357** · 01-27-2010, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by glover

If you could read then you would know that I did not recommend not running test with tren . I answered his question about body hair. Test will grow body hair.

I suggest you read OP before commenting on answer's.

DHT blockers prevent hair loss not hair growth. And yes the tren and deca will not cause body hair growth anywhere near the test.

It's like I said before if your going to take test you will have to live with body hair growth if you are predisposed to it.
(For the folks on here who can't follow that is not a recommendation to use or not use anything not mentioned in previous sentence.)

Gotcha. I understand what you were trying to say now. Just sounded like you were saying not to run test (I'm sure most people understood it like that).

**JMan06** · 01-27-2010, 12:53 AM

since tren is highly androgenic wouldnt it be a steroid that would be most likely to increase body hair growth?

**6ft5** · 01-27-2010, 09:39 AM

Wax it lol. It shouldn't be that bad most guys who work out save or wax anyway. I'd be more concernd about flippn the fck out cuz that shit will shake u up like a paint mixer. And sum extra sets of sheets cuz ull probly have nite sweats A LOT.. Lol I'd have a bottle of xanex on hand.lol good luck! You should def put on sum lean mass w that cycle.

**JMan06** · 01-27-2010, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by 6ft5

Wax it lol.

Ive tried that before with those nair wax strip you buy at the drugstore. Right after I get a shit load of reb bumps and irritation that lasts a week a least. You think if i get it done properly at a spa itll be diff?

**JMan06** · 01-27-2010, 11:43 AM

since tren is highly androgenic wouldnt it be a steroid that would be most likely to increase body hair growth? Would I be better off with nandolone or primo?

**6ft5** · 01-28-2010, 09:02 PM

Yea nair has always jacked me up I naird my whole body before, nuts and all.. not fun.lmao! and u can find a totaly hot asian or whatever to wax u.lol! if u hav hair on your shouldrs or upper back what's a little more? Men have hair.. Tren I'm shure will do it the most.