Is roberts clen info still good?

[caffeine_menace]

Im currently 5'-7" 215lbs 20% bf... 2 yrs ago i used clen to get down to 170lbs and 10% bf but after about a year i had a foot injury that put me out of the gym for 9 months and depression set in. I gained back my weight...Im currently back in the gym and on a good diet again. So wut i did before and wut im currently running now is this...

Liquid clen

Week 1: 100mcg's
week 2: 100mcg's
week 3: 100 mcg's/ benedryl 25mg
week 4: 150mcgs

This is where i am currently but havent seen any info lately on running the clen straight through with benedryl every 3rd week....I plan at staying at 150 mcg's as i can handle it fine and will do this for 12 weeks...

So is this straight thru method using the benedryl still good or was it proved wrong????????

So far ive lost 10lbs and 6% bf...

[Phate]

Im currently 5'-7" 215lbs 20% bf... 2 yrs ago i used clen to get down to 170lbs and 10% bf but after about a year i had a foot injury that put me out of the gym for 9 months and depression set in. I gained back my weight...Im currently back in the gym and on a good diet again. So wut i did before and wut im currently running now is this...

Liquid clen

Week 1: 100mcg's
week 2: 100mcg's
week 3: 100 mcg's/ benedryl 25mg
week 4: 150mcgs

This is where i am currently but havent seen any info lately on running the clen straight through with benedryl every 3rd week....I plan at staying at 150 mcg's as i can handle it fine and will do this for 12 weeks...

So is this straight thru method using the benedryl still good or was it proved wrong????????

So far ive lost 10lbs and 6% bf...

the benedryl(diphenhydramine) myth has been debunked already, but you can run it straight through with ketotifen fumarate

btw, unless you know you can handle 100mcg as a starting dose i would start at 40mcg and increase by 20mcg every couple days so you can monitor the sides

remember, if your waking temp. increases 0.5-1.0 degree then the clen is working (if you don't know how to figure your waking temp i'll explain)

[hunterwells]

...how do u figure your waking temp?

[Phate]

...how do u figure your waking temp?

1) put a thermometer by your bed
2) immediately take your temperature when you wake up(before you even get out of bed, as to not influence your temperature)
3) do this for a week or so and average the results, this is your waking temp

you should be 0.5-1.0 degree Fahrenheit when the clen is working well

[hunterwells]

so do that for a week and calculate and average temp before u start clen ?

[Phate]

so do that for a week and calculate and average temp before u start clen?

yeppers

[hunterwells]

preciate it

[caffeine_menace]

the benedryl(diphenhydramine) myth has been debunked already, but you can run it straight through with ketotifen fumarate

btw, unless you know you can handle 100mcg as a starting dose i would start at 40mcg and increase by 20mcg every couple days so you can monitor the sides

remember, if your waking temp. increases 0.5-1.0 degree then the clen is working (if you don't know how to figure your waking temp i'll explain)

Thanx Phate...yeah i usually start at 100mcg's and go up from there never passing 160...Im currently dosing at 150mcg's right now and plan on staying there...So is this ketotifen fumarate readily available or am i gona go on a mission finding it??

[caffeine_menace]

Looked it up on Wiki and got my answer...So which is the best recommended oral brand to get?

[hunterwells]

ar-r sells keto and its only like 25 bucks

[tballz]

ar-r 's ketotifen is good stuff. Take it before bed because it makes you sleepy. Works well with the insomnia with clen .

[caffeine_menace]

Thanx guys....Wuts the recommended dosage for the keto??? Also while im going to be ordering if i stack the clen with the T3(wuts the recommended dosage for this?), would i still use the Keto every 3rd week?

[Phate]

Thanx guys....Wuts the recommended dosage for the keto??? Also while im going to be ordering if i stack the clen with the T3(wuts the recommended dosage for this?), would i still use the Keto every 3rd week?

i normally dose at 1mg/100mcg of clen per day, and i wouldn't use t3 yet

[caffeine_menace]

Whens a good time to kick in the T3 or do i use that on a separate cycle once my bf is lower?

[Phate]

Whens a good time to kick in the T3 or do i use that on a separate cycle once my bf is lower?

here's the thing bro, t3 can cause muscle loss if you run it at doses above 80-100mcg/day, and i mean alot of muscle loss, depending on how long you run it

i would save it till you cycle or run it very low dose, like 50mcg/day(ramped up to)