cutting and bulking on the same cycle

**TheMilk** · 02-09-2010, 05:22 PM

anyone have any experience cutting then bulking (or vice versa) on the same cycle?

**bjpennnn** · 02-09-2010, 05:30 PM

Do one or the other, it will be a little counter productive.

**redz** · 02-09-2010, 05:32 PM

It just doesnt work well, choose one then do pct then take some time off.

**bjpennnn** · 02-09-2010, 05:47 PM

Imo hit a bulking cycle, then after your pct wait a while once your hormones have stabilized and hit some clen or an eca stack with a good diet and you will be good to go.

**TheMilk** · 02-09-2010, 06:04 PM

if I were to loose a quick 10 lbs before a test and dbol cycle would it likely come right back as fat when i start bulking?

**bjpennnn** · 02-09-2010, 06:05 PM

loose a quick ten pounds lol, i have never heard of a thing lets get some of these.
Height
age
weight
bf%
cycle exp:
training exp:
pct?
diet?

**TheMilk** · 02-09-2010, 06:18 PM

age 25
6'1"
215-220 lbs
18% bf
6 years training
first cycle
pct: nolva and arimidex

**TheMilk** · 02-09-2010, 06:20 PM

I've lost alot of weight fast before and kept it off with minimal muscle loss

**bjpennnn** · 02-09-2010, 06:22 PM

If its your first cycle then try this for sure, http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=priming you will get your diet in check and create a good environment for muscle growth. Plus it may help you drop a little bf. You may want to reconsider starting your cycle, and plan on starting once you get down to 15% bf. If you gain to much fat on cycle and cycle with high bf then it can lead to an increase in estro sides on cycle.

I would just make a really nice diet, and run some clen or eca for a while till you get to 15% honestly.

**bjpennnn** · 02-09-2010, 06:23 PM

also pct should consist of this
Day 1-18: Clomid @ 100 mgs
Day 1-18: Nolva @ 40 mgs
Day 18-36: Clomid @ 50 mgs
Day 18-36: Nolva @ 20 mgs

**TheMilk** · 02-09-2010, 06:23 PM

thanks bj your the man. love the new avatar by the way

**bjpennnn** · 02-09-2010, 06:24 PM

thanks bud, you can get clen from ar-r top right hand corner too. Good luck.

**ironflames** · 02-09-2010, 06:28 PM

while you bulk, you can still do 2-3 days of good cardio and help keep fat down. test WILL have water retention, but i found that by doing cardio regularly it helps cut it out, also do eat foods high in sodium and that will help with it too.

**Eat Too Much** · 02-09-2010, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by ironflames

while you bulk, you can still do 2-3 days of good cardio and help keep fat down. test WILL have water retention, but i found that by doing cardio regularly it helps cut it out, also don't eat foods high in sodium and that will help with it too.

Fixed.