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    Dianabol PCT and Liver Protection...

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    Been training for 20 years (40 years old) and more recently, I have been doing a d-bol only 5 week 30mg course a couple of times a year just to push me past plateau's, and although I know it doesn't work for everyone, it bumps me nicely past the sticking point. My question is: I normally take Nolva for a couple of weeks post cycle, and Milk Thistle while on the cycle and for a couple of weeks afterwards. Is this a suitable liver protection regime, and is the Nolva enough to bounce my test back? I have never had any problems, but it's the unseen dangers that concern me. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses View Post
    Hey

    Been training for 20 years (40 years old) and more recently, I have been doing a d-bol only 5 week 30mg course a couple of times a year just to push me past plateau's, and although I know it doesn't work for everyone, it bumps me nicely past the sticking point. My question is: I normally take Nolva for a couple of weeks post cycle, and Milk Thistle while on the cycle and for a couple of weeks afterwards. Is this a suitable liver protection regime, and is the Nolva enough to bounce my test back? I have never had any problems, but it's the unseen dangers that concern me. Cheers.
    i would use something like liv52 in addition to the milk thistle and i would start both of them a week or two before cycle

    i would do a nolva/clomid pct(it's not that much more expensive so why not)

    any particular reason why you like dbol only cycles? there are much better oral cycles(like anavar /tbol) which are very mild on the liver and have no estrogen related sides since they can't aromatize(so no high blood pressure, back pumps, moon face, etc...)

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    Thanks for that - really helpful. What would be the pct if I did clomid as well as Nolva? The reason I use d-bol is because I don't normally suffer any noticeable sides from the dbol , and wasn't aware that the other options were easier on the liver - i thought that all orals were basically the same on the liver... I know that T-Bol is less anabolic but assumed that because of this i would need to use larger amounts? i would value any advice on t-bol or other oral cycles. Thankyou!!!! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses View Post
    Thanks for that - really helpful. What would be the pct if I did clomid as well as Nolva? The reason I use d-bol is because I don't normally suffer any noticeable sides from the dbol, and wasn't aware that the other options were easier on the liver - i thought that all orals were basically the same on the liver... I know that T-Bol is less anabolic but assumed that because of this i would need to use larger amounts? i would value any advice on t-bol or other oral cycles. Thankyou!!!! :-)
    pct 4 weeks
    nolva 40/20/20/20(this means 40mg/day for the first week, then 20mg/day for the next three)
    clomid 100/50/50/50

    all orals definitely affect the liver differently, halotestin for example is extremely hepatotoxic and shouldn't be run for more than a couple weeks while anavar is mild and can be run for 6-8 weeks

    dosage depends on the compound, i think a good cycle would be
    1-6 anavar 60mg/day
    1-6 tbol 40mg/day

    i can post some threads on them if you would like to research them

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    That would be really cool. I'm assuming you're stacking the anavar with the tbol? What amount of liv52 and milk thistle would you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulysses View Post
    That would be really cool. I'm assuming you're stacking the anavar with the tbol? What amount of liv52 and milk thistle would you recommend?
    just the recommended dosage on the bottle is fine

    here are some threads

    Anavar FAQ
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94756

    Oral vs. Injectable
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...highlight=oral

    Swifto's HCG and PCT Advice
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

    Tbol
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

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