Please throw me a bone

[littleguy77]

Age: 34:
Weight: 155
BF: 125%
Height: 5feet 7 inches

Going to do my first cycle of anavar , looking for clean gains and strength

When do I start Nov., and what should be my daily dose 60 or 80mg?

What is recommended duration, 8 weeks?

Any other legal supplements I should take along with anavar.

[tboney]

Age: 34:
Weight: 155
BF: 125%
Height: 5feet 7 inches

Going to do my first cycle of anavar , looking for clean gains and strength

When do I start Nov., and what should be my daily dose 60 or 80mg?

What is recommended duration, 8 weeks?

Any other legal supplements I should take along with anavar.

I am assuming you mean 12.5%??

What do you mean " When do I start Nov"? Do you mean nolva???

[1bigun11]

I dont think I ever met someone with 125% bodyfat.

[1bigun11]

I am assuming you mean 12.5%??

What do you mean " When do I start Nov"? Do you mean nolva???

No, he means November. He's planning ahead....

[tboney]

No, he means November. He's planning ahead....

Ahhh.. I see. Is there a reason you dont want to run test with the var??

[littleguy77]

Sorry for short hand, 12.5 for body fat, and Nolvadex .
I do not want to use any test.

With my body weight should I take 80mgs/ day or 60?
Should I only do for 2 months, and should I start Nolvadex after Anavar or start week 6

[redz]

Are you afraid of needles?

[idrockasupra]

Dude you should do more reading but here u go. Run the var at 60mgs starting depending on the quality of ur var u can run 60 the whole way but if u can bump it up to 80 if u really want, start w 60 tho IMO. run nolva AND clomid 2 days AFTER your cycle ends heres dosing for 4 weeks
nolva
40mg 40 20 20



clomid
100mg 50 50 50

Is this ur first cycl

[littleguy77]

done cycle when i was 23 - dbol and cyp., but haven't since
to be honest not found of needles, I know i will get slack for stating this

what to do a cycle that will be as clean as possible

thank you for feedback.

[Hard.On]

WTF!
That is the worst cycle for you and absolutly pointless.

Your old enough so Im not going to say dont do a cycle. but ur pretty light.

Do a real cycle, put on some fat along with some real muscle.

BE A MAN!!!

[littleguy77]

twotimer, what you suggest that would be a clean cycle

d-bol with test. d-bol 4-6 weeks along with test 1 - 12 weeks, start PCT week 10?

Thinking anavar because hopefully the weight i gain i will keep= quality versus quantity and months later lost

[Hard.On]

Well Im not an expert so do more research on my suggestion:

First Cycle:
500 mg of Test Enth or Test Cyp/week (12 weeks)
With a proper PCT

That is all

Hopefully if you read all of the stickies, you can put on some good weight and keep it
Diet Section/This Section/ Workout Section etc.

Get a full blood panel done prior to cycle
Post cycle- get another panel done and when your numbers come back to normal then you can do another cycle with Test + Dbol .(probly be 4-8 Months after)

Like I was told some time ago,
AAS is a marathon
not a sprint

[chuckt12345]

Var alone is fine. Just depends on your goals.

[PRAMANIS]

Littleguy77 do yourself a favor and hold off on the Anavar . All your going to get out of that so called cycle is some strenght and you will be lean and hard but skinny. Buy some Test E or Cyp and run a 10 week cycle with it. After your cycle,PCT and proper time off while you are eating your face off run another cycle with Test E or Cyp but run it for 12 weeks with Dbol during the first 4 or 5 weeks. After your 1st and 2nd cycles your 3rd you should prob use Deca with it and by now you should be around the 200lb area and then you can use that Anavar to lean out.

[idrockasupra]

Dude you should do more reading but here u go. Run the var at 60mgs starting depending on the quality of ur var u can run 60 the whole way but if u can bump it up to 80 if u really want, start w 60 tho IMO. run nolva AND clomid 2 days AFTER your cycle ends heres dosing for 4 weeks
nolva
40mg 40 20 20



clomid
100mg 50 50 50

Is this ur first cycl

[bjohnson1968]

There's nothing wrong with adding dbol to your test cycle i wouldn't run it anymore than 4 weeks imo @ no more than 40 mgs ed weeks 1-4

as far as the test no less than 10 weeks and imo no more than 12 weeks imo 500mgs per week dosed twice at 250 mgs 3.5 days apart

pct start is based on which rest ester you choose to run test e 14 days after last inj test c is 18 days

pct imo nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50 have an ai on hand just case gyno would become an issue

Hope this helps

Peace

ps GET THAT DIET IN CHECK B4 YOU CYCLE!!!!!!

[littleguy77]

Great information. was competitve powerlifter at 148lbs. weight class 3 years ago. tired of being of small side, but also don't want to be bloated.
Thought anavar would be good but weak cycle to start off with, and than cycle 2 go with test and d-bol cycle. It sound as though dbol and test should be cycle one and eliminate anavar cycle.

[Bertuzzi]

Ok, I am very pro-anavar and I am gonna give you some advice from my experience and research. First off I think you need to do some more research on it before taking it IMO. As for weight gain everyones body reacts different but I don't think you'll see a lot of lean weight gain probably 5lbs, which isn't bad. It will increase your strength for sure. After doing 2 Var only cycles myself and researching more and more everyday I feel it is best used with some test. If you want the strength and the gains with minimal bloat try a medium/low dose of test e (400mg) a week with a 60mg ed dose of var. I have not yet done a test/var cycle but will soon... still getting back into shape after an injury.

If you do go with the Var only cycle "idrockasupra" is right about the PCT but start it the very next day, don't wait the 2 days.

Good Luck

[tboney]

Ok, I am very pro-anavar and I am gonna give you some advice from my experience and research. First off I think you need to do some more research on it before taking it IMO. As for weight gain everyones body reacts different but I don't think you'll see a lot of lean weight gain probably 5lbs, which isn't bad. It will increase your strength for sure. After doing to Var only cycles myself and researching more and more everyday I feel it is best used with some test. If you want the strength and the gains with minimal bloat try a medium/low dose of test e (400mg) a week with a 60mg ed dose of var. I have not yet done a test/var cycle but will soon... still getting back into shape after an injury.

If you do go with the Var only cycle "idrockasupra" is right about the PCT but start it the very next day, don't wait the 2 days.

Good Luck

Good advice!

[littleguy77]

thanks for advice. might start with test and var versus var only.

[bjpennnn]

a couple good reads that should help you out.
Why Test for a First Cycle
Written by jimmyinkedup
contributed by jimmyinkedup
http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Written by Phate
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

Avavar FAQ
Written by XBiker
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94756

also BJJ has a pretty good thread on anavar only and his experiences.

[Bertuzzi]

Yes... BJJ has a very nice post on Anavar only

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=403234

Check it out.

[c-Z]

Here's your bone.

[littleguy77]

Great information. This forum is extremely informative.
Thanks for the bone.

[c-Z]

NP bro... i figured most people already gave you the answer sooo threw ya a bone LOL

["DIRTY D" SANCHEZ]

You're headed in the right direction with test var, instead of just var. The test will put real size and strength on while the var will reduce the water retention/bloat.

Good luck,

"dirty d"