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    Orals less risk of long term hpta problems?

    I was just reading part of a study..

    "Oxandrolone used in a dose of 80 mg/day suppressed endogenous testosterone by 67% after 12 weeks of therapy"

    considering most var cycles are half of that, and usually at a lesser dose, its safe to say a var only cycle doesn't shut you down nearly as hard as injectables do. so for oral only cycles with the expception of anadrol , and maybe dbol , would you guys says theres less risk of long term hpta problems with oral only cycles? I'm 26 now, but back in high school had a group of buddies that did some dbol cycles, and theyre fine now (not that I condone kids doing it)

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    what about long term liver problems from oral use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexruger View Post
    what about long term liver problems from oral use?
    That would be my worry as well. Orals are hard on the liver, and let's be honest, you can live with a shut down axis...liver on the other hand, not so sure about.

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    Yeah I know they're a lot harder on the liver. But for someone who only wanted to do a couple cycles with as little risk as possible to hpta, wouldn't orals be the "safer" choice in that regard?

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    What are your goals, short term and long term? What are your stats?

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    short term goal put on about 10 lbs of lbm.. long term id like to be in the 210-220 range
    im still debating whether to even cycle right now.. but if i decide to id like to do it with the least possible risk of long term hpta damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorgasm View Post
    Yeah I know they're a lot harder on the liver. But for someone who only wanted to do a couple cycles with as little risk as possible to hpta, wouldn't orals be the "safer" choice in that regard?
    theyre still a synthetic form of test in your body

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    yeah i know, but the shut down isnt as severe, so recovery would be a lot easier no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorgasm View Post
    yeah i know, but the shut down isnt as severe, so recovery would be a lot easier no?
    dbol and adrol can shut you down hard, it depends on the person

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