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    Have decided to do PCT insted of Bridge need advice!

    Alrite guys ,

    after a lot of research and reading I have decided to run a pct and then do another cycle insted of running a bridge, all i need is some sound advice on what you guys think I should do exactly to insure I keep most of my gains.

    I ran Test cyp for about 14 weeks 625mg a wk
    dbols 20mg ed for 4 weeks
    deca at 400mg wk for 12 weeks.
    adex .5mg eod through out cycle
    hcg 500iu eod through out cycle.

    I have Clomids, HCG and adex on hand.

    I was planning on doing the following for my pct so please let me know if it is good or needs changes. Also I did my last shot of test cyp on wednesday Apr 8 so when do I start? Thanks.

    PCT:
    HCG 1500iu every 4 days ( total of 3 shots) days 1,5,9 (used hcg from day 1)
    Arimidex .25mg ed weeks 1-4
    clomids 200mg day 1, 100mg ed weeks 1 to 3
    50mg ed weeks 4 to 6

    again guys please let me know asap because i took my last test cyp shot this past wednesday.

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    I forgot to mention that before this cycle I did a 4.5 months bridge of 200mg test cyp a week and before that i was on another cycle. Total time on AAS 11 months straight. so when answering my questions and giving me some good advice please take that into consideration.

    Thanks.

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    I would run tamox in your pct at 40/20/20/20/20 along with clomid and take out the adex.

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    I agree with adding in nolva, I would drop the adex from pct though, it lowers the effectiveness of nolva.

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    a four and a half month bridge?? really with cyp at 200mg that is rediculous sorry dude no matter what you do you are going to lose alot of gains you may want to add the nolva drop the adex and add aromasin aswell and run your high dose clomid through week four istead of just three why in the world would you go a year on if you were planning in coming off?? i would also add in significant amounts of prayer to god!! for your naty test to come back

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    You're going to feel like crap for several weeks no matter what pct protocol you use. Just ride it out though bro.....unless you want to be on hrt for life.

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    I've done this. It sucks. Go to the high end dosing of all your pct meds. It still is going to suck.

    Clomid 200/100/100/100/50/50/50/50
    nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20/20/20
    HCG can be included, but since you ran it while on cycle, you probably don't need it here.

    From my experience, there will be a day or two go by that you can't even get out of bed. Hope you have the ability to call in at work. If you have a wife or girlfriend, you are going to need some cialis or viagra for several weeks. Mr. Happy just won't want to work for a little while.



    Only AFTER you go through this detox, will you know if your HPTA is up and running again, or if you just put yourself on HRT for life.

    Good luck.

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    alrite guys. Thanks for the advice from now on I will be running 12 week cycles only. With out blood work is there any way of checking if I have returned to normal test levels, either by how i feel etc?

    Also I did my last shot of test 5 days ago so how do I go about starting pct? and How long should I wait before another cycle?

    Thanks guys.

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    Slimy you mentioned a pct of nolva and clomids can you be more specific on daily dosage and for how long? Sorry I am a little confused about what you wrote above. Thanks.

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    its been about 4 weeks sense my last test shot, ive been on pct going on my 2nd week now , and just wanted to say i feel like comeplete SHIT! im feeling down and like i want to lie in bed all day and not come near a 5lb weight lol. But from your experiences how long will I feel like this and is this because of very low natty test levels? please let me know what to expect. thanks.

    p.s i meant to say 100mg test a week during my bridge and not 200. Hopeing that this will make a diff but we will see.

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    Hang in there bud. It comes with the territory. I would make sure you get bloodwork done that is comprehensive about 6 weeks after pct cessation. No sense going on the cheap and guessing with your health.

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    so i will be on pct a few more weeks at least, but your saying i should get my blood work done? how do i go about asking for that to my doc? and wait at least 6 weeks after pct before even thinking about another summer cycle?

    thanks again for the input guys, i really appreciate it

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    I agree I would drop the armidex and add in aromasin . I would do clomid 300 for 3 days, 150 for ten, 100 for five and 50 for 5. I would also add in some heavy Vitamins especially vit E.

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    how long do you guys normally wait between cycles? and how long does your pct run for?

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    spoke with a buddy of mine that I train with and he mentioned using 500iu of hcg during all of pct. What do yougs think?

    reason why I ask is because I am not seeing testes go back to normal and am worried.

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