2 years since last cycle, need feedback on my new plan for CUTTING.

[jnickson]

Hey Bros,

first things first:

My stats

• 26 years old
• 6'2” 230lbs
• About 14% bodyfat
• Been training hard for 7 years
• 4 previous cycles; one every year from 05 to 08. I've used Test E, Test P, Oral Winny (kidney pains), Oral Turinabol(kidney pains), Anavar (DESTROYED my hair, still recovering), and Clen.

Goals for the cycle

• Drop bodyfat to 9%
• Keep all of my remaining hair
• Use the momentum gained from this cycle to stay lean for a while.

I probably started using gear when I was too young (21 yrs old), and I didn't have the mental strength to deal with the crash that came afterwards. I also started using more and more gear in every cycle and still got less and less results because my mind wasnt focused during training anymore. So I decided to stop using gear until I felt mentally ready to use it properly.

I've done some research in the forums. So short cycles are all the rage now? Good, I always felt that gains tapered off after about 6 - 8 weeks and HATED the crash after a 15 week cycle. The 2 year break hopefully gave my receptors a chance to fully recover, so I am planning to run the following conservative cycle:

Week 1 – 7

• Test P 100mg EOD
• A-Dex 0.25mg ED
• Zinc 50mg ED

Weeks 2, 4, 6

• Clenbut 100mcg or Albut 8mg ED (can't decide on which yet, haven't used Albut before, could use some feedback here.)

Weeks 5 – 7

• HCG 250iu E3D

PCT:
Weeks 1 – 4

• Nolva 50mg ED
• Zinc 100mg ED

Week 1- 2

• Albut 8mg ED for its anti-catabolic effect

Not sure whether to add A-Dex and HCG to PCT. I'd also like to avoid Clomid if possible, as it really really REALLY messes with my head. Could use some feedback here.

To fight hairloss I use Xandrox 5% and 15%+ (a mix of Fina, Minox and some other ingredients) from minoxidil.com, as well as their 3% Ketoconazole Shampoo. I also take 1500mg of St Johns Wort for mood support; it works very well for me.

I am undecided on whether to do another 7 week cycle after I finish PCT. Guess it will depend on the results.

As you can see a very conservative cycle. What do some of the veterans here think?

Thanks for the help,

jnickson

[jnickson]

No replies? Damn this forum used to be full of helpful people

[firsttimer22]

I would first run test p no shorter than 10 weeks ...why such a short cycle?

goals?


i would run HCG for the entire cycle @ 250iu 2x's a week


i think ur pct needs a little work....try adding some clomid with that nolva (even tho you say it messes with you, gotta suck it up)

nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50


dont run HCG in PCT, and for a-dex, you shouldnt need it either in pct

are you gyno prone? i would hold off on adex unless you need it but keep it on hand just in case

hope this helps man

[firsttimer22]

ok my bad, i got ur goals.....

[Aizen Sosuke]

Bump the test prop dose to 150mg/eod at least. You are a big guy so 350mg/week might not be enough for you. Run it for at least 8 weeks. I agree with the clomid messing up with you. How about you run it at lower dosage for 5 weeks along with nolvadex . Something like 50/50/50/25/25.

[jnickson]

The idea behind such a short cycle was based on some threads I read here, that said that the shorter the cycle, the faster recovery will be. Also, I've noticed that gains tend to taper off after about 8 weeks, so I thought that maybe two 7-week cycles will do more for me than one 14 week cycle.

But like I said, feedback is welcome

[Aizen Sosuke]

I agree with you and others, gains begin to slow down after 8 weeks, however I don't like the idea of two cycles back to back.

[ferocious bubble]

Hey Bros,

first things first:

My stats

• 26 years old
• 6'2” 230lbs
• About 14% bodyfat
• Been training hard for 7 years
• 4 previous cycles; one every year from 05 to 08. I've used Test E, Test P, Oral Winny (kidney pains), Oral Turinabol(kidney pains), Anavar (DESTROYED my hair, still recovering), and Clen.

Goals for the cycle

• Drop bodyfat to 9%
• Keep all of my remaining hair
• Use the momentum gained from this cycle to stay lean for a while.

I probably started using gear when I was too young (21 yrs old), and I didn't have the mental strength to deal with the crash that came afterwards. I also started using more and more gear in every cycle and still got less and less results because my mind wasnt focused during training anymore. So I decided to stop using gear until I felt mentally ready to use it properly.

I've done some research in the forums. So short cycles are all the rage now? Good, I always felt that gains tapered off after about 6 - 8 weeks and HATED the crash after a 15 week cycle. The 2 year break hopefully gave my receptors a chance to fully recover, so I am planning to run the following conservative cycle:

Week 1 – 7

• Test P 100mg EOD
• A-Dex 0.25mg ED
• Zinc 50mg ED

Weeks 2, 4, 6

• Clenbut 100mcg or Albut 8mg ED (can't decide on which yet, haven't used Albut before, could use some feedback here.)

Weeks 5 – 7

• HCG 250iu E3D

PCT:
Weeks 1 – 4

• Nolva 50mg ED
• Zinc 100mg ED

Week 1- 2

• Albut 8mg ED for its anti-catabolic effect

Not sure whether to add A-Dex and HCG to PCT. I'd also like to avoid Clomid if possible, as it really really REALLY messes with my head. Could use some feedback here.

To fight hairloss I use Xandrox 5% and 15%+ (a mix of Fina, Minox and some other ingredients) from minoxidil.com, as well as their 3% Ketoconazole Shampoo. I also take 1500mg of St Johns Wort for mood support; it works very well for me.

I am undecided on whether to do another 7 week cycle after I finish PCT. Guess it will depend on the results.

As you can see a very conservative cycle. What do some of the veterans here think?

Thanks for the help,

jnickson

Well you mention trying to get down to 9% body fat, a big goal. To help with this you might want to consider adding anavar at 60mgs everyday, very good cutting steroid .


~bubble!

[jnickson]

Thanks for the help Aizen Sosuke, you seem to be the only poster in here who actually read my post thoroughly.