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    fast REAL muscle?

    Hey,
    if i wanna get fast muscle like ronnie colemal or jay cutler,
    What is best sterroid to take?
    and what i need to do farther?
    Diet?
    WOrkout?

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    diet and training will be the 2 biggest things. What are your stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builtchristopher View Post
    You're not gonna get fast muscle like Ronnie or Jay because muscle doesn't come on FAST. Even if you do take steroids you still have to train everyday, eat a good diet everyday, and be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day (fast), and neither will you be.
    Actually, they are bulding up still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent8383 View Post
    Hey,
    if i wanna get fast muscle like ronnie colemal or jay cutler,
    What is best sterroid to take?
    and what i need to do farther?
    Diet?
    WOrkout?
    We can help you! But tell us a little about yourself.
    Age
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    wt
    bf%
    training exp

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    Define fast? Even if you have the best genetics, unlimited budget and a spot on diet, you wont be there within the next couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    Define fast? Even if you have the best genetics, unlimited budget and a spot on diet, you wont be there within the next couple years.
    You mean i can't just order some deca and shoot it twice and look like a pro? damn!

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    I can tell by your question you need to start from begining with training and eating like a bodybuilder for a few years, forget steroids you need to build a base.

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    I am 19 years old
    Started bodybuilding from my 13th
    Im 1.75meters
    i weigh 75kg
    i got 6 years of exp
    my arms are 40 cms

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent8383 View Post
    I am 19 years old
    theres your answer... you should take no anabolics and develope your body further with your high natural test levels.

    Sorry to have to say it, and Im sure you will go ahead anyways, but you are too young and risk your health too much at that age.

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    yeah what knockout said..

    i have low test for life because i started at 19 years old and didnt do things right...wait, keep training and eating and youll be good...in afew years you will be ready.

    you dont want a doc to be telling you to be on TRT at 26 years old...believe me it sucks..

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    On what age i have to start then?
    Btw wich sterroids i have to take then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent8383 View Post
    On what age i have to start then?
    Btw wich sterroids i have to take then?
    You should build a base and think about AAS around 24-25yrs old, you can gain loads at your age with the right diet and training program, if you start to young you could damage yourself for life, read this article i wrote it may help:

    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



    TRAINING
    You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

    Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

    Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


    DIET
    A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

    No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

    This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment

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