testicle atrophy and going soft??? HELP

**Stoneguy** · 05-05-2010, 05:46 AM

I'm on week 6 of running test cyp at 500mg's a week. I also just started tbol 2 days ago at 40mg a day. I started to notice my tesicles shrinking about two weeks ago and in the last week or so I notice I'm not getting that hard without a lot of work. Damn....before that it got hard when the wind blew!!! Whats going on guys?? What can I do to fix this? Should I start taking my Nolva 10mgs a day for rest of cycle? Will this help or maybe get some HCG and start that right away as well as the Nolva?May be a stupid question but does HGH help at all?

BTW this is my second cycle
I'm 38 yrs old

**ghettoboyd** · 05-05-2010, 05:54 AM

your just getting older bro like myself....id just get some cialis or whatever instead of using a serm but others may feel differently....i have no experiance with HCG so i cant advise on it.....

**Stoneguy** · 05-05-2010, 06:06 AM

oh come on dont say that..lmao! Nah Its all been good with out gear and didnt notice this happening till two weeks ago for testicles and a week ago going soft or not staying hard! It's def the gear cause never had this problem

**marcus300** · 05-05-2010, 06:43 AM

As you get older things don't react the same, your obviously shut down that why you have atrpohy, to find out exactly why your going soft you may need to get bloodwork done, sounds like your estrogen/testosterone balance it out but without BW its going to be hard to figure out why.

Also using AAS at your age will have a direct impact on your natural testosterone, it will get hard and harder to recover and no doubt you will be getting use to going soft, hrt in the long run will be the answer when off cycle,

**Stoneguy** · 05-05-2010, 10:21 AM

Thanks Marcus, I will look into getting some blood work done! I dont want to go see my family doctor...maybe look for independent lab or something. I'm not completely atrophy and limp. Just noticing testicle are smaller and I have less of a sex drive. When I do get wood it stays but less than before and still wake up with wood every morning! I just noticed alot less of a drive from before I began and started the cycle?

Anyone else have any input?

I read on here that HCG is the way to go?

I also have Nolva and wondering if I should start both right away and see if there is improvement!

I guess the other question is should I stop my cycle and go to my pct?

**marcus300** · 05-05-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Stoneguy

Thanks Marcus, I will look into getting some blood work done! I dont want to go see my family doctor...maybe look for independent lab or something. I'm not completely atrophy and limp. Just noticing testicle are smaller and I have less of a sex drive. When I do get wood it stays but less than before and still wake up with wood every morning! I just noticed alot less of a drive from before I began and started the cycle?

Anyone else have any input?

I read on here that HCG is the way to go?

I also have Nolva and wondering if I should start both right away and see if there is improvement!

I guess the other question is should I stop my cycle and go to my pct?

Yes HCG is the way forward to help out the atrophy, if your not taking an AI I would consider taking one, the problem could be estrogen related but without bloodwork its all guess work.

**gbrice75** · 05-05-2010, 10:55 AM

This sounds odd to me, and alarming! All I keep hearing about is how big the sex drive will be on test, how you're schween will be like steel, you'll want to bang all the time, etc. - this sounds completely contradictory! I'm 34 and just started a test e cycle - I am really nervous about this happening!

Personally, I have been taking .25mg Arimidex EOD to deal with Estrogen, hopefully that will help out some.

**Stoneguy** · 05-05-2010, 06:03 PM

I was a little surprised also!!! I guess it can happen! I was fine till my week 5 then started to notice it! I started my nolva today and trying to get the HCG also going to do some blood work if I notice it getting worse.

I think you will be fine with that dose your taking of arimidex .

**gbrice75** · 05-05-2010, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Stoneguy

I was a little surprised also!!! I guess it can happen! I was fine till my week 5 then started to notice it! I started my nolva today and trying to get the HCG also going to do some blood work if I notice it getting worse.

I think you will be fine with that dose your taking of arimidex.

GL man, let me know how things progress... hopefully for the better!

**Stoneguy** · 05-06-2010, 05:07 AM

thanks...I will keep you updated

**Stoneguy** · 06-05-2010, 08:49 AM

Update....I'm doing much better since I posted this! Almost back to normal!

I did HCG and nolva.

I ran 500iu's of HCG twice first week then 250iu's twice a week since.

Also running 10mg's of nolva ED

I will run this for another two weeks till end of my cycle!!

I got all this great advice from SWIFTO...thanks guys

**marcus300** · 06-05-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Stoneguy

Update....I'm doing much better since I posted this! Almost back to normal!

I did HCG and nolva.

I ran 500iu's of HCG twice first week then 250iu's twice a week since.

Also running 10mg's of nolva ED

I will run this for another two weeks till end of my cycle!!

I got all this great advice from SWIFTO...thanks guys

Great news, hope all goes well.

Swifto is the testicle expert around here, he just loves balls

**Swifto** · 06-05-2010, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Great news, hope all goes well.

Swifto is the testicle expert around here, he just loves balls

ha ha ha.... Yeah, love them!

The day I like testicles, shoot me in the face with a shotgun!

**Stoneguy** · 06-05-2010, 10:40 AM

LMFAO on the testicle expert comment! All kidding aside..thanks to both you guys and look forward to more great advice from guys like you two on here!!

all I can say is HCG works great and I will use it every cycle with an AI from now on!!

**NEW YORK ROID** · 06-05-2010, 11:05 AM

HCG helps out with the atrophy but after taking nolva when did you notice an increase in erectile function?

**louiscypher** · 06-05-2010, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Stoneguy

Update....I'm doing much better since I posted this! Almost back to normal!

I did HCG and nolva.

I ran 500iu's of HCG twice first week then 250iu's twice a week since.

Also running 10mg's of nolva ED

I will run this for another two weeks till end of my cycle!!

I got all this great advice from SWIFTO...thanks guys

Swifto is the man when it comes to the usage of hcg, ai's and serms. Many thanks again Swifto!

**Stoneguy** · 06-06-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by NEW YORK ROID

HCG helps out with the atrophy but after taking nolva when did you notice an increase in erectile function?

I started taking both of them right away. I noticed a slight improvement after a week then saw more improvements each week. I would say it took me almost a full 4 weeks of the HCG and nolva. My Nolva doses were 10mg a ED. Swifto can answer you better on this subject but from what I understand it was mostly the HCG doing the work and the Nolva lowered my estrogen levels!