bottom line is eq worht it?

**anabolic1979** · 05-07-2010, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

To each their own.....

The gear i'm using now is undeniably working..... on top of that - I have seen lab results for some of their products and they tested right on point. So I guess whats happening is my particular UGL is making excellent Tren E..... Test E..... Deca ..... but he secretly hates EQ and chooses to underdose it so people stop ordering it.....

~Haz~

its ur opinion that the other products from an ugl are excelent

**Hazard** · 05-07-2010, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by OH REALLY

Haz how do you know for sure its not much but if you keep running it 2cm here 2cm there and after a couple of cycles your at half an inch around...

LMFAO!

Wish I took before and afters for everyone LOL

~Haz~

**Hazard** · 05-07-2010, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by anabolic1979

its ur opinion that the other products from an ugl are excelent

So I guess the bloodwork reports of the IGF-1 levels and the Test Levels being through the roof are just my opinion?

Maybe the tren night sweats and the horrid tren acne are my opinion too?

If there was a way to prove that EQ sucked more balls Ru Paul - I would doit..... however..... theres no test I can go get to show that it sucks. All I can do is use it..... and report back.

~Haz~

**graeme87** · 05-07-2010, 09:35 AM

In the past I've ran cutting cycles of test prop/tren ace/masteron 100mg ed of each so just over 2g of gear a week. I got stronger and gain a few lean pounds on this cycle so it is better than a 500mg EQ and 125-250mg of test e cycle for cutting but I decided the gear would have been better used to bulk, it was almost a waste to use that much gear to only gain 3-4lbs of muscle and get lean when I could have bulked on it and gained 10lbs and then cut on a low dose cycle.

So in summary, if you use EQ to cut and you are only interested in maintaining muscle mass and getting more vascular then it's worth it. If you want to bulk up or cut and get really strong and gain a few lbs in the process there are better compounds. It all depends on what you are looking to get out of a cycle.

**JasonT** · 05-07-2010, 09:40 AM

I have a hunch that the vets are trying to drive us away from EQ so they can have it all for themselves....i'm not falling for it

brb, ordering allofit

**Kiki** · 05-07-2010, 09:49 AM

ugl brands and i can see y people would say its garbage because the quality is low but i used to run brand name years ago and i would love to get my hands on more

I ran pharma grade EQ and I still felt it was a waste of money MG for MG.

The only single positive thing I could say about EQ is that my appetite went through the roof, but then again when cutting this is not what you want. So the only benefit I see from EQ is something which has its use in bulking. But I would never incorporate it into a bulking cycle anyways......

**Hazard** · 05-07-2010, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by JasonT

I have a hunch that the vets are trying to drive us away from EQ so they can have it all for themselves....i'm not falling for it

brb, ordering allofit

LMFAO!

Here's the thing.....

The vets and HOF'ers on this board have A LOT of experience..... not just with different compounds - but also how each compound works for them. They've usually been in the game a very long time..... and know what to expect.

Most of the guys who don't like EQ have used it multiple times and don't think they respond to it. This doesn't mean the entire world wont respond to it tho.....

Now think about this..... if you ask these guys a question..... you would want their honest opinion right? If you want to know what the best PCT is..... you wouldn't want them to say to bridge your cycle with Dbol LOL. If you ask them what they think about EQ..... you will get their honest opinion.

They wont try to intentionally steer anyone in the wrong direction.....

~Haz~

**JasonT** · 05-07-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

LMFAO!

Here's the thing.....

The vets and HOF'ers on this board have A LOT of experience..... not just with different compounds - but also how each compound works for them. They've usually been in the game a very long time..... and know what to expect.

Most of the guys who don't like EQ have used it multiple times and don't think they respond to it. This doesn't mean the entire world wont respond to it tho.....

Now think about this..... if you ask these guys a question..... you would want their honest opinion right? If you want to know what the best PCT is..... you wouldn't want them to say to bridge your cycle with Dbol LOL. If you ask them what they think about EQ..... you will get their honest opinion.

They wont try to intentionally steer anyone in the wrong direction.....

~Haz~

nice try, just placed a massive order...good luck finding some in the near future

jk man, i know what you're saying. I'm still a newb, but I might give it a shot sometime down the line just out of curiosity.

**thuglife** · 05-07-2010, 12:28 PM

so when should eq be used?

**Matt** · 05-07-2010, 12:34 PM

EQ is a must, its slightly more exspensive than WD40 but my spark plugs have never been so clean..

**thuglife** · 05-07-2010, 12:39 PM

whats the usual effects of eq when it is workin good? benifits? well being??

**powerliftmike** · 05-07-2010, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

LMFAO!

Here's the thing.....

The vets and HOF'ers on this board have A LOT of experience..... not just with different compounds - but also how each compound works for them. They've usually been in the game a very long time..... and know what to expect.

Most of the guys who don't like EQ have used it multiple times and don't think they respond to it. This doesn't mean the entire world wont respond to it tho.....

Now think about this..... if you ask these guys a question..... you would want their honest opinion right? If you want to know what the best PCT is..... you wouldn't want them to say to bridge your cycle with Dbol LOL. If you ask them what they think about EQ..... you will get their honest opinion.

They wont try to intentionally steer anyone in the wrong direction.....

~Haz~

Thanks haz. The above is the truth. Everyone does respond differently but I give my personal experience and let you take it for what its worth. Primo and Halo do nothing for me. EQ just made me more vascular and hurt my joints. Var mainly just made me blow farts all the time and feel soo sleepy. Obviously some people get really strong on halo and dont get tired and sleepy on var. But Im not speaking of those people. Its a fact the EQ is quite mild, but depending on your goals and individual body attributes it might be worth it for you. Just not for me..

**thuglife** · 05-07-2010, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

Thanks haz. The above is the truth. Everyone does respond differently but I give my personal experience and let you take it for what its worth. Primo and Halo do nothing for me. EQ just made me more vascular and hurt my joints. Var mainly just made me blow farts all the time and feel soo sleepy. Obviously some people get really strong on halo and dont get tired and sleepy on var. But Im not speaking of those people. Its a fact the EQ is quite mild, but depending on your goals and individual body attributes it might be worth it for you. Just not for me..

good point thanks

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 05-08-2010, 07:49 PM

I will probably never use EQ just because of all the negative reviews I always see from it. I just dont see the point in spending all that money when there are better things available

**lilswollt** · 05-08-2010, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by graeme87

EQ won't give much in the way of gains to anyone other than a novice user.
However when I am on a cutting cycle I am not trying to gain any muscle, some people like to add a few lean pounds but for me a cutting cycle is all about burning fat and the steroids taken are only there to maintain muscle mass. For that reason I don't see the point in running large amounts of strong compounds in a cutting cycle. 500mg of EQ and a TRT dose of test is fine to maintain muscle mass and get more vascular.

i like this

**GUP** · 05-08-2010, 11:40 PM

I have not had great results with eq ran a 16 weeker 700mg a week with test e,I have a lot left over running along one now of eq 1200 a week with tren e and test e for quite sometime,if I didn't have left over probably wouldn't have thrown it in,let's see what it does at a higher dose.

**mick86** · 05-14-2010, 10:52 PM

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.

B4 getting onto my experience with Eq 1st here's my limited experience in brief: (sorry don't mean to hijack)

1st cycle:
12 weeks
Test E 500mg pw (frontloaded & 12 weeks)
Deca 400mg pw (frontloaded & 10 weeks)

2nd cycle:
10 weeks
Dbol 30mg pd (2 weeks)
Test E 500mg pw (frontloaded & 10 weeks)
Deca 400mg pw (frontloaded & 8 weeks)
Nolva/Aroma

3rd cycle:
12 weeks (followed by 5 weeks cutting)
Test C 600mg pw (frontloaded & 12 weeks)
Slin 10 - 20 iu pd (not all days/weeks)
Nolva/Aroma

Test P 350 mg pw (5 weeks)
clen (6 weeks)
T3 (6 weeks)
DNP (6 weeks)
Nolva/Aroma

4th cycle:
7 weeks
Test P 600mg pw (7 weeks)
Tren A 350 mg pw (6 weeks)
Bold Und 350 mg pw (frontloaded & 6 weeks)
Bold Ace 200 mg pw (1 week)
Tbol 50mg pd (2 weeks)
Slin 10 - 20 iu pd (not all days/weeks)
Arimidex (used at low dosage throughout cycle)
Nolva/Aroma

4th cycle yielded the best results by far, I attribute largely to the incredible increase in my appetite. On all other cycles I struggled to eat enough calories. I would attribute this at least partly to the Eq, but also accept that there could have been other factors at play including additional compounds ran at higher levels and also the incorporation of a priming period and management of estrogen levels through better AI's ran during the cycle.

In conclusion I'll definitely be including Eq in my future cycles, at very least to see if I can get a similar outcome to the last.

**c-Z** · 05-15-2010, 05:45 AM

How is eq so great in the post but theres more no it sucks posting?

forget that trash i have seen people use it. i thought about running it to prove to myself it sucks.... but screw that. like big and everyone else says. more useful stuff out there.

**wrasslin140** · 05-16-2010, 08:35 AM

I would only try EQ to test out the athletic benefits, which I will more than likely do in either winter or spring next year....And will post a log so that people can follow along.

**matty boy** · 05-16-2010, 09:05 AM

that is bulsht my bro never taken a cycle in his life and after 2months of takeing that garbge he went back to his dealer and ask him if he sold him cooking oil stick with something that work=s = sustanoin 270 lol=primo =winny