Teenagers!

**junkiescumbag** · 05-15-2010, 10:13 PM

you only live once

**stevey_6t9** · 05-15-2010, 10:46 PM

geeze another teenage thread,

i think were forgetting maturity plays a part in this, theres a big difference in the maturity of an adult and teenager.

Just because you get a green light doesnt mean its ok to go, as a teenager your in no position to make such descisions which may affect u the rest of your life because you lack maturity.

i cycled at 19 and most likely will be on TRT soon, so kids dont do drugs.

**lovbyts** · 05-16-2010, 04:42 AM

I love all these STUPID kids who keep saying They know or understand the risks and choose to do it anyways. yeah right... if they/you really did then no way would you have used before 24/25. Come back 10 years from now and tell me/us the same thing.

Most of you wont be around. You will have given up working out for one reason or another. You will blame certain health issues on unrelated reasons because you are to ignorant to add 2+2.

I know from being here long enough that MOST of you have no business doing AAS not just due to age but due to not working out long enough, being to fat or to skinny, being afraid of needles and wanting to do an oral only cycle and having no/little knowledge of what to use, how to use it or what the side effects are.

It's also funny/humorous hearing so many kids saying how they know someone who started at 16, 18, 20 and they have No problems. hahahahaha Again, come back in 10 years and tell me the same.

Sorry but I have seen it to many times. You guys have No idea how your body works. Not everything just STOPs now. Some things take years to see the effect due to it being hormonal.

Im SO glad even though I had it available to me, I had a friend who also started using at 17 (died in his early 20s) and could have easily said yes I waited... You never know what life is going to throw at you. I started when I was in my 40s. Do I wish I did earlier? Yeah in my 30s maybe but not before.

**Black** · 05-16-2010, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Exilus

Im 19 and half-way thru my SECOND cycle. Lovely. Packed on about 50 pounds of muscle in 8 months and growing.

Sure, 50 lbs of pure muscle. So you were 159 lbs. when you started?

Originally Posted by Exilus

I said i was done growing. I had a scan shortly before my 2nd cycle and my plates are closed. thats the main raison i discontinued HGH.

And you're right, that was my diet A FEW MONTHS AGO.

Its the results that matter, not the way you get them. I gain more weight then most people here. nuff said. kthxbye

So you had a "growth" scan after you already started AAS? What the hell does that prove?

Originally Posted by Exilus

im 209 lbs at 5'9 at about 14% bf......thats average...maybe for people here who have done cycles in the past....

209 lbs. at 14% BF? And you've done two cycles? When I started working out, I was 140 lbs. I trained up to 200 lbs. at 10% bf, naturally.

TRT doesn't scare you? Why the hell would it scare you? But also, why the hell would you want to inject yourself for the rest of your life if you don't have to? You are young and think you know everything right now. Come back in about 10 years.

Your progress is pathetic and weak for having done AAS. Thanks for contributing to giving AAS a bad name.

**marcus300** · 05-16-2010, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

Sure, 50 lbs of pure muscle. So you were 159 lbs. when you started?

So you had a "growth" scan after you already started AAS? What the hell does that prove?

209 lbs. at 14% BF? And you've done two cycles? When I started working out, I was 140 lbs. I trained up to 200 lbs. at 10% bf, naturally.

TRT doesn't scare you? Why the hell would it scare you? But also, why the hell would you want to inject yourself for the rest of your life if you don't have to? You are young and think you know everything right now. Come back in about 10 years.

Your progress is pathetic and weak for having done AAS. Thanks for contributing to giving AAS a bad name.

Excellent points, very well said

**Exilus** · 05-16-2010, 11:33 AM

1)Yes, i was 159. i weighed 115-120 when i started training.
2) i was 5'9 when i was 16.5 years old. i was 5'9 when i started at 18. i was done growing.
3)So what? maybe you're a 6'2 mesomorph?

I gained 35 lbs and kept 28 on my first cycle. and now im up close to 25 again.Yeah thts some pathetic progress? ****in lamer.

You guys are just as stubborn and know-it-all as we are. Youre all acting the same way as us, no point in even trying to argue with you.

I dont care bout TRT because i plan to cycle until i die. So ill be injecting myself anyway.

**big_ron** · 05-16-2010, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by 007

I had only started seriously training a few years before this however when i was 17/18 in the armed forces i was offered the chance to use aas but turned them down as i thought at that time that this would be cheating..

If i could go back in time things would be different, i wouldnt turn them down for that reason, id still turn them down but for health reasons...

One of the problems i see with younger men taking aas at an early age and im talking 18/25 is ok you think its fine, lets just say that there is no health issues. You just have to read some of their posts, they have terrible diets, they've spent very little time in the gym. This is not all of them, just most of them i could bring up dozens of old posts and show you.

Younger guy's tend to see aas as a quick fix, something to replace a good diet or hard work in a gym. Im not making this up, just reading some of the responses in this thread alone you can see the maturity of these guy's..

I understand why people like marcus and Big get pissed at these younger guy's. If it was fine for anyone at any age or in any condition to use aas then man wouldnt it be great, we wouldnt have to have these threads all the time. Do you think they do their best to put these guy's off because it makes them feel better?? Or it gives them more aurthority??. No they do it because they really do care.

thanks man i really appreciate your words, i agree with most of what you are saying, and i know people my self who use it inappropriately willy nilly, a fec cc's here and there and dont cycle properly and half the time dont even train, they think if they inject that they are just going to grow haha

but if not abused then it can be used safely and be a help and not an issue in the future

**lovbyts** · 05-16-2010, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Exilus

1)Yes, i was 159. i weighed 115-120 when i started training.
2) i was 5'9 when i was 16.5 years old. i was 5'9 when i started at 18. i was done growing.
3)So what? maybe you're a 6'2 mesomorph?

I gained 35 lbs and kept 28 on my first cycle. and now im up close to 25 again.Yeah thts some pathetic progress? ****in lamer.

You guys are just as stubborn and know-it-all as we are. Youre all acting the same way as us, no point in even trying to argue with you.

I dont care bout TRT because i plan to cycle until i die. So ill be injecting myself anyway.

That is really a stupid statement and shows your ignorance. You have no idea what life can throw at you or how priorites change. Yes you are 100% sure of this now and ill bet you change your mind 10x over the next few years. LOL

Most of us have been there and we realize how ignorant we where also at your age. I know how we thought we had it all figured out but how little we really knew.

I could give you example after example but I'm sure I would just be wasting my breath. Even though I think you are an idiot I wish you luck, you will need it.

**junkiescumbag** · 05-17-2010, 01:13 AM

surely 1 cycle at 19 going on 20 will not put you on TRT

**lovbyts** · 05-17-2010, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by junkiescumbag

surely 1 cycle at 19 going on 20 will not put you on TRT

Really? How many will it take then? how did you become an expert on this? Well everyone is different, it make take 2 or maybe even 3? Or it may do other things such as cause ED which it does to MANY, it could cause other hormonal imballances that may not show up for years, maybe only raise his estrogen so he gets bitch tits and starts lactating like a pregnant woman.

Are you giving him a personal guarantee this wont happen to him? How are you backing this? Im going from experience of other members who have reported these issues and my guess is only 1/10 if that report problems and another 1/10 probably never associate the two.

there is a reason these safe guards are suggested. These really smart people called doctors have done years of studies using real people and accumulated data over many years to come to these conclusions of the effects of steroid use on young people.

Obviously you are smarter than them, right?

**junkiescumbag** · 05-17-2010, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Really? How many will it take then? how did you become an expert on this? Well everyone is different, it make take 2 or maybe even 3? Or it may do other things such as cause ED which it does to MANY, it could cause other hormonal imballances that may not show up for years, maybe only raise his estrogen so he gets bitch tits and starts lactating like a pregnant woman.

Are you giving him a personal guarantee this wont happen to him? How are you backing this? Im going from experience of other members who have reported these issues and my guess is only 1/10 if that report problems and another 1/10 probably never associate the two.

there is a reason these safe guards are suggested. These really smart people called doctors have done years of studies using real people and accumulated data over many years to come to these conclusions of the effects of steroid use on young people.

Obviously you are smarter than them, right?

mate, wasnt having a go i dont know all the facts and never claimed i did. but by the sounds of it your the expert im 19 going on 20 in a few months and want to survery the risks before i step into anything. having second thoughts now might just wait a year

**lovbyts** · 05-17-2010, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by junkiescumbag

mate, wasnt having a go i dont know all the facts and never claimed i did. but by the sounds of it your the expert im 19 going on 20 in a few months and want to survery the risks before i step into anything. having second thoughts now might just wait a year

Good on having 2nd thoughts, show the gray matter is starting to kick in and using a little logic instead of desire.

Expert? not I would not put myself in that category but experienced, yes. I am also 20, 27 years ago. LOL Im not to the senile stage yet so it's still considered wisdom.

Trust me, those of us who are saying DONT are only trying to look out for your best interest because we know some from experience, some from watching others and some on here are actually in the medical field and we have seen first had what it can do, the negative effect. Stick around long enough and you will read plenty of reports from people your age and even older who have experienced problems.

Please do a lot more research. Not only on what is a good cycle but why you should not at your age and what can go wrong and does a lot of the time.

Yes it sucks, you being of legal age and all that someone is telling you your body is not mature enough to do something. I clearly remember being your age and the feeling of I can do what I want, Im different, it wont happen to me etc. Dont even get me started on what happened to me and the curves life throws at your. LOL

You are really at the peak of your testosterone levels for the next 5 years or more. Why screw that up and you will. No matter what anyone tells you when you do a cycle you are shutting down your natural test. Even if it starts back up after PCT it's not 100% the same. Also there are your growth plates that can fuse. Height is not all you are concerned about with growth so dont say you are done growing. There are 100s of other things that are controlled via hormones and you are putting them at risk because your system has not finished changing for several more years.

IF you decide not to do a cycle PLEASE dont go away. We have many members who have never done a cycle yet because there is a lot to learn and gain naturally, more than you could imagine.

**junkiescumbag** · 05-17-2010, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Good on having 2nd thoughts, show the gray matter is starting to kick in and using a little logic instead of desire.

Expert? not I would not put myself in that category but experienced, yes. I am also 20, 27 years ago. LOL Im not to the senile stage yet so it's still considered wisdom.

Trust me, those of us who are saying DONT are only trying to look out for your best interest because we know some from experience, some from watching others and some on here are actually in the medical field and we have seen first had what it can do, the negative effect. Stick around long enough and you will read plenty of reports from people your age and even older who have experienced problems.

Please do a lot more research. Not only on what is a good cycle but why you should not at your age and what can go wrong and does a lot of the time.

Yes it sucks, you being of legal age and all that someone is telling you your body is not mature enough to do something. I clearly remember being your age and the feeling of I can do what I want, Im different, it wont happen to me etc. Dont even get me started on what happened to me and the curves life throws at your. LOL

You are really at the peak of your testosterone levels for the next 5 years or more. Why screw that up and you will. No matter what anyone tells you when you do a cycle you are shutting down your natural test. Even if it starts back up after PCT it's not 100% the same. Also there are your growth plates that can fuse. Height is not all you are concerned about with growth so dont say you are done growing. There are 100s of other things that are controlled via hormones and you are putting them at risk because your system has not finished changing for several more years.

IF you decide not to do a cycle PLEASE dont go away. We have many members who have never done a cycle yet because there is a lot to learn and gain naturally, more than you could imagine.

good post. thankyou, haha yeah i have no intensions of leaving alot of the ppl here know there shit when it comes to diet and training. i think i may have low test levels naturally though which concerns me. i still get pimples but i have next to no sex drive and have troubles sleeping sometimes and im defiantely not hairy is it possible im a late bloomer? or should i get my levels checked dont wanna mess around with AAS if my levels will increase naturally

**Necrosaro** · 05-17-2010, 11:55 AM

So full of fail, this forum needs a good member cleaning!

**pskyle** · 05-17-2010, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Good on having 2nd thoughts, show the gray matter is starting to kick in and using a little logic instead of desire.

Expert? not I would not put myself in that category but experienced, yes. I am also 20, 27 years ago. LOL Im not to the senile stage yet so it's still considered wisdom.

Trust me, those of us who are saying DONT are only trying to look out for your best interest because we know some from experience, some from watching others and some on here are actually in the medical field and we have seen first had what it can do, the negative effect. Stick around long enough and you will read plenty of reports from people your age and even older who have experienced problems.

Please do a lot more research. Not only on what is a good cycle but why you should not at your age and what can go wrong and does a lot of the time.

Yes it sucks, you being of legal age and all that someone is telling you your body is not mature enough to do something. I clearly remember being your age and the feeling of I can do what I want, Im different, it wont happen to me etc. Dont even get me started on what happened to me and the curves life throws at your. LOL

You are really at the peak of your testosterone levels for the next 5 years or more. Why screw that up and you will. No matter what anyone tells you when you do a cycle you are shutting down your natural test. Even if it starts back up after PCT it's not 100% the same. Also there are your growth plates that can fuse. Height is not all you are concerned about with growth so dont say you are done growing. There are 100s of other things that are controlled via hormones and you are putting them at risk because your system has not finished changing for several more years.

IF you decide not to do a cycle PLEASE dont go away. We have many members who have never done a cycle yet because there is a lot to learn and gain naturally, more than you could imagine.

bro, you've tried enough trying to discipline this guy. He's not going to stop, and you've been generous enough to give your input, experience and time. I hate teens who act like this...gives some of the more rounded-out ones a bad rep.

**lovbyts** · 05-17-2010, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by pskyle

bro, you've tried enough trying to discipline this guy. He's not going to stop, and you've been generous enough to give your input, experience and time. I hate teens who act like this...gives some of the more rounded-out ones a bad rep.

Actually if you read his post I believe he is seeing the light and he may have some ligit medical reasons to use. By keeping the dialog open we are both discovering more information.

I suggest you visit a Endocrinologist. If in fact you do have low test you can get a prescription and be on it legally.

It's a win win.

Dont give up on today's youth so easily. LOL

**thisbmine** · 05-17-2010, 08:15 PM

Good one lovebyts. Just because their parents, teachers and society have.. doesnt mean we should. And besides, no one at the gym exposes their underwear

**marcus300** · 05-19-2010, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Actually if you read his post I believe he is seeing the light and he may have some ligit medical reasons to use. By keeping the dialog open we are both discovering more information.

I suggest you visit a Endocrinologist. If in fact you do have low test you can get a prescription and be on it legally.

It's a win win.

Dont give up on today's youth so easily. LOL

All you have to do is look in this section and nearly all of us are trying to steer these kids in the right direction, little do they know that the secret to building muscle tissue is more or less with diet and not tablets or injections.Learn how to build muscle naturally and build a base and foundation