Source says I don't need PCT or 'any of that stuff'

**cmc2005** · 05-18-2010, 02:32 AM

OK so I've finally found a friend who takes steroids and who has done a couple cycles. His close friend is the actual one who orders the stuff from wherever he gets it from so I guess my buddy is the middle man.

Well after reading through these forums, I have decided to take test-e 500mgs a week for about 8 weeks, and which I will be purchasing from him. When I asked him if he can get me some Letro so I can take a good 2 weeks before I start the cycle, he said 'you don't need that stuff, you will just be waisting your money'.

He also had the same response for when I asked for Nolva and Clomid for PCT, and he also added 'No one ever really ask for that stuff'.

I'm confused guys. When I talk to him it's like you don't need that but yet on these forums It's pretty much taboo if you don't have that stuff on hand JUST IN CASE.

Will it really be 'ok' if I just start my test-e cycle without anything else on-hand since I can't really get any of the stuff anyway?

**Matt** · 05-18-2010, 02:37 AM

Stats

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Years training???

You always need a pct, not much of a friend....

**thetruthc32** · 05-18-2010, 02:43 AM

thats just the people who have a complex about not keeping gains, and looking small after they come off. they want to always be doing something, he also wants you to aways be buying so of course hes not gonna tell you proper protocol

**cherrydrpepper** · 05-18-2010, 03:05 AM

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

In my experience a dude can be jacked as shit and not know shit about gear. They are just a case of bitch tits or perma deca dick waiting to happen.

**cmc2005** · 05-18-2010, 03:22 AM

007,

Forgot that info.

I am:
23 yrs old
5'8
152pds
15% bodyfat
And have been training for about 5 yrs on/off mostly on.

**thisbmine** · 05-18-2010, 04:41 AM

Cherry - LOL, as usual.

OP, ive read a post that 90% of AAS users dont know shit. Dude who sold me gear doesnt know shit about a PCT. He gets great stuff, but he isnt as useful as this forum.
So Im going to "waste" a couple of hundred bucks and do a PCT... Seems to be what the "cool" kids are doing these days :P~

But seriously read a couple of threads and you'll be hugging your modem that you found this site.

**rookie builder** · 05-18-2010, 04:57 AM

you always need PCT, if your boy doesn't have it on hand hit the ar-r site up they have quality research chems. The people on this forum have no vested interest in lying to you or steering you the wrong way. Your source could be looking at you as a steady stream of income.....

**Matt** · 05-18-2010, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by cmc2005

007,

Forgot that info.

I am:
23 yrs old
5'8
152pds
15% bodyfat
And have been training for about 5 yrs on/off mostly on.

You seriouly need to spend as much of your time in the diet forum.

Steroids will do nothing if your diet is crap...

Read all the stickies in there then post your current diet, lets get that right before we look at aas...

**Chev** · 05-18-2010, 08:19 AM

Dude you need to eat!! Dont cycle, if you dont listen to these guys you can get your PCT from the banner up top. Good luck

**MuscleCommand** · 05-18-2010, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by 007

You seriouly need to spend as much of your time in the diet forum.

Steroids will do nothing if your diet is crap...

Read all the stickies in there then post your current diet, lets get that right before we look at aas...

Bravo. So many people overlook their diet while on a cycle and then bitch that they must have been using bunk gear when their results are not what they wanted. Massive amounts of calories, high protein, low fat and all of that good shit is a must.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 05-18-2010, 02:10 PM

stats aren't good enough for an AAS cycle. But if you are going to do it anyway, you absolutely need pct

**Bigdog99** · 05-18-2010, 02:33 PM

RTFF (Read the Fvcking Form) In a nice way of course

. PCT is so easy to do and get. My question is why the hell would you not do it? Order it LEGALLY online and it is in your mailbox in a plain white evelope in 2-3 days. How much easier can you get to ensure you stay healthy and help keep your gains that you bust your ass for.

**The.Student** · 06-13-2010, 05:44 PM

Yeah bud, your stats need some work. You're better off working on your nutrition/training and not even worry about AAS at this time.

**gymnerd** · 06-13-2010, 07:49 PM

Just do a PCT!!! I have heard arguements both ways but bloodwork doesnt lie and PCT helps recovery.

**vaders4** · 06-13-2010, 08:19 PM

Drug dealers usually don't tell you how to make the most out of your drugs.

That's like a crack dealer who tries to get the crackheads into rehab.

They want you to cycle, get big and then shrink - so you buy more steroids . They'd sell far less steroids if people kept 75% of their gains.

**lovbyts** · 06-13-2010, 09:47 PM

Your source/buddy is correct; MOST people dont use PCT or any of that stuff and that is also why so many have problems even though most of them will never tell you they did.

That is also why most of them blow up on cycle and loose it all after cycle and 3-6 months later you can not even tell they work out.

No PCT = having long lasting ED issues, depression, loss of all/most gains, more depression, stop working out and eventually looking worse than before but having ED issues among other things to boot.

It's up to you, do you want to be THAT guy?