anadrol/winstrol question

[akrobat]

(submmited the question but cant find it so im rewriting it again): in my country I only have access to these 4:anadrol ,dianabol ,winstrol ,anavar . Without a testosterone base can one do these upperstated? Cant obtain pcts. Some here do 50/mgs anadrol + 50/mgs winstrol together daily divided in two parts (25mgs each) with meals for short 2 week on/off cycles and it seems to work well with good size + moderate water retention with minimal sides. Two orals are not optimal but dont have access to injectables now. 30 years old, regular training, 80 kilos, goal to bulk up 15 kilos theoretically. Win+adrol together with no pct? Can get bloodwork done,Is this possible? If not how can the upperstated 4 orals be incorporated into a healthy cycle with limited options?

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all orals + no pct = don't cycle

[Hazard]

all orals + no pct = don't cycle

Don't listen to this guy..... he's dumb.....

J/k he's the man..... and spot on BTW. I wouldn't cycle with those options.....

~Haz~

[akrobat]

hello: can i take adrol + winstrol at 50 mgs each for 2 week on /off cycles?

[Matt]

You can, wouldnt be a very good idea....

[akrobat]

Hello: I am 30 years old, 80 kilos, working out for several years, want to bulk up. In the country I live in and in my current limited circumstances I do not have access to optimal options like a test base and/or even pcts. Healthwise I can get bloodwork done. But my access now is only to 4 orals: 2 bulking & 2 cutting. Anadrol , dianabol , winstrol , and anavar . Some here do short 2 week on/off anadrol/winstrol cycles combined of 50 mgs each split daily into 2 parts with meals, on a regular basis, and it seems they do ok together with 2/3 keepable gains and moderate water retention with minimal side effects. But with no pct access now? I can get blood checked though. Can I do these short two weekers safely on a regular basis? And if I want to later incorporate dianabol or anavar safely also, how and in what doses? Thank you.

[panntastic]

I wouldn't do it mate that will not only bounce your blood levels about but mess up your hpta probably. I know you can't get test but I would hold out for a reliable source bro don't mess yourself up cutting corners

[akrobat]

why wouldnt you cycle with these, too harsh on the liver, on hpta, on everything? What about short cycles? What do you reccomend, its all ive got.

[trix8]

does arr not ship to where you live if your gonna do it u can get pct from them

[akrobat]

Any other constructive info as to how to run these tabs. what means "you can?" Either yes or no! People here DO these combos! thanks for your insight!

[akrobat]

the problem with overseas shipping is that its all inspected and opened ahead of time, do you understand me? The consequences are questionable. Wh

[gixxerboy1]

Any other constructive info as to how to run these tabs. what means "you can?" Either yes or no! People here DO these combos! thanks for your insight!

People do alot of things that arent smart.

It not a good idea for lots of reasons.

It will be tough on your liver

It will shut you down and 2 weeks off with out any pct will not let you recover.

Its great that you can get bloodwork. But if you cant get access to the things you would need to fix yourself after the bloodwork comes back its pointless.

I'm sure people are seeing results. Taking 2 weeks off really isnt enought time for them to loose their gains since they jump right back on.
BUT I'm sure they are doing damage to thier body. And when they do finally stop that they will have issues.

[gixxerboy1]

here is your other thread with similiar responces

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=431687

[akrobat]

I could try. Whats arr? And to be real exact, what: 100 mg clomid + 20mg nolva (tamoxifen ) for how long exactly after 2weekers of heavy orals? Bad for liver? Advice?

[akrobat]

thanks for insight. (The other thread is the same. Made a mistake.) the question, with proper pct this is ok? Or no? And exactly what pct for how long?

[Matt]

You need to spend sometime reading through the educational threads, everything your asking is answered in there..

If we just spoon fed you the information then theres no way you could absorb what is being said, learning it yourself helps you understand better what each compound does to your body and its effects..

[akrobat]

the other thread was made by mistake because I thought this one didnt go through

[akrobat]

thanks for your advice. I am thinking of how to use the compounds I obtain in a constructive manner. Given 100mg clomid & 20 nolva daily how long does one take these after 2week anadrol winstrol cycles? 2 weeks? Longer? I dont HAVE test. Question 2: what if cycling these longer - say for a month, =equals 100mg clomid/20mg nolva for a month? Correct? Or dianabol /anavar 4 weeks= 4 weeks upstated pct? Your advice + time appreciated!

[number twelve]

I would only consider var by itself

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