New Guy looking for advice on hgh/steroid cycle

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 02:53 AM

Hey guys. Ive started an hgh cycle with blue tops and the boxes have been sealed with an "ND" sticker in the middle of April, so I'm just over a month in. I am taking 4 IUs a day, 5 days a week, 2 in the morning upon waking and two at night after dinner. I've definitely noticed fat loss, but that's it so far. As I continue my gh cycle, i wanted to add an anabolic , but there is a chance I could be given a UA test in which I cant test positive for, but the chance of being given a UA is around the time of november/december so I can't take something that will stay in my system for anymore than a maximum of 2 months, and I also need my gains to stay with me as long as possible after being off the anabolic cycle. My gh cycle will last around mid september and any tips on prolonging these gains as well would be very helpful. I was told winstrol would be a good choice and I think I would supplement that with Proviron or Arimidex to make up for the lack of androgen in Winstrol. What do you guys think? Sorry my post is so long, thanks for any advice you can give!

**Matt** · 05-22-2010, 02:58 AM

Stats

Age
Height
Bf%
Weight
Years training
Cycle history
Pct knowledge????

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 03:05 AM

20 yrs old
6'1" and 275 lbs with 20% bf
Around 6 years of training
I cycled Spawn last summer, but other than that I have never cycled a true steroid or growth hormone before.

**Matt** · 05-22-2010, 03:12 AM

Far to young to be doing hgh let alone aas imo...

Doing a cycle with such a high bf% will put you at a higher risk of estrogen related sides such as gyno...

Diet and cardio is the answer your looking for, post your diet in the diet forum lets start there...

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 11:49 AM

I'm not looking to lose very much bf.. I had shoulder surgery in January so my bf is a little higher than normal. I'm usually around 17-15% and will get there on the next month or so.

**Matt** · 05-22-2010, 11:52 AM

Sorry, so your happy with your bf%??

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 12:54 PM

Well not happy but I know with my training I'll naturally drop back down plus help from the gh should put me around 15%.

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 12:56 PM

Well not happy but I know with my training I'll naturally drop back down plus help from the gh should put me around 15%.

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 12:56 PM

Well not happy but I know with my training I'll naturally drop back down plus help from the gh should put me around 15%.

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 01:08 PM

Wow sorry about that. Phone messed up.

**c-Z** · 05-22-2010, 01:26 PM

Or a good diet and cardio could put you at that bf%....

**Matt** · 05-22-2010, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Or a good diet and cardio could put you at that bf%....

Exactly.

The more the op posts the more its sounding like he's unable to put in the hard work. He's after that magic quick fix pill...

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 03:40 PM

No I'm not worried about my bf%. That'll take care of itself once I start training hard again which u haven't been able to because of surgery. I was just wondering if adding Winstrol and Arimadex would be a good choice for muscle gains. I have about 3 months to get as much gains as I can. And once my cycle is complete then how long can I expect to keep my gains? I understand a good diet will lengthen my gain sustainability.

**c-Z** · 05-22-2010, 03:55 PM

Stop worry about as much gains... Loose that in the vocabulary.... Bodybuilders don't take jacks magic beans and gain 100lbs of mass in a night.. it takes time... Just the same as your body had to heal...

Now my recommendation as stated... Don't think hgh is going to speed up the process. Because this is a common misconception. It won't if anything it will hurt you. Let it heal naturally. By trying to speed it up. You will only most likely hurt yourself again. Its proven weak. Now let it heal. And learn how to strengthen it. Not speed up the healing. And go on a cycle to injury it again.

**JB6675** · 05-22-2010, 04:24 PM

I had surgery in January. I'm 4.5 months out. I play football as well, injuries are part of the game to some extent. The doctor and PT have cleared me for lifting and hgh won't hurt me by any means. It actually strengthens cartilage and tendons (or ligaments cant remember which one). but thanks. lol