Newbie Is it ok to use prohormones and AAS?

**silverback11** · 05-31-2010, 11:13 PM

I've been using tren type prohormones and dhea together and a few days ago was given 10mg oral winny can I add this for my last month or would it be a waste of time? I've also gotten really good strength gains with what i've been taking.

6'
265
age 29
down to 15% bf from 27% before this cycle

**Little Herc** · 06-01-2010, 12:41 AM

I don't think i would run any oral pro hormone or steroid (exception; var,tbol) for more than 1 month and that is if I was running it by itself just b/c of liver toxicity. If that tren is methylated and you've been using long enough to loose 12% bf and still have another month to go I would start looking for a liver donor for when your done

***D7M*** · 06-01-2010, 05:40 AM

I would just finish your PH cycle, do a pct, recover then do another cycle.

Always PLAN your cycles in advance, and don't run cycles by whatever happens to become available.

**silverback11** · 06-01-2010, 07:53 AM

ok i will do that then thank you for the input

**MuscleCommand** · 06-01-2010, 09:43 PM

No need to do a PH with AAS. In the future, you'd be better off saving the PH for when you're totally off or even as part of your PCT.

**danielli** · 06-02-2010, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by silverback11

I've been using tren type prohormones and dhea together and a few days ago was given 10mg oral winny can I add this for my last month or would it be a waste of time? I've also gotten really good strength gains with what i've been taking.

6'
265
age 29
down to 15% bf from 27% before this cycle

WOW...27% down to 15%! How's your diet look? I'd love to see the before and after pics! Do you plan on positn them up?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 06-02-2010, 02:02 PM

winny is better off when your bf% is lower than 15% anyways. I would save it for when you lose more weight for your next cycle

**AnonEagle** · 06-02-2010, 03:55 PM

no one here will ever suggest two highly toxic orals at the same time, especially without test. it'll wreak havoc on your liver, not to mention shut down your HPTA

**silverback11** · 06-03-2010, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by danielli

WOW...27% down to 15%! How's your diet look? I'd love to see the before and after pics! Do you plan on positn them up?

i never really let people take pictures of me when i was that heavy cuz i was so embarrassed of my weight. which came from being sedentary for 5 months cuz of ACL replacement partial MCL tear and some meniscus removal.

as for my diet i basically went with a pre-contest type diet of very low carbs and tons of chicken and tuna. i would of course only be able to stand it for so long and have a couple of carb loading days to get some good recovery. but lots of cardio as well of course, 20 -30min first thing in the morning and then after lifting

**silverback11** · 06-04-2010, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by danielli

WOW...27% down to 15%! How's your diet look? I'd love to see the before and after pics! Do you plan on positn them up?

but i'll see what i can find for pics

**JBarron** · 06-04-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleCommand

No need to do a PH with AAS. In the future, you'd be better off saving the PH for when you're totally off or even as part of your PCT.

I have a few questions about this.

I have an otc test booster I bought a while back and never used. It's called IGF2 by Applied Nutracueticals, I know people who swear by it, and am friends with their spokesman.

Anyways, would I get any use out of using this product along with pct to boost natural test levels back up?

I also have an old bottle of Formadrol Extreme by LG (anti-estrogen) would this serve me any purpose if I ran this along with my cycle to avoid estrogen effects, or is it just not potent enough for aas?

Last I have a bottle of Methyl Masterdrol (strength prohormone) Would this be more beneficial to run with pct instead of the test booster?

Sorry to highjack this thread was relevant to my questions and I didn't want to start a thread in the supp section no one visits there lol.

**silverback11** · 06-04-2010, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by JBarron

I have a few questions about this.

I have an otc test booster I bought a while back and never used. It's called IGF2 by Applied Nutracueticals, I know people who swear by it, and am friends with their spokesman.

Anyways, would I get any use out of using this product along with pct to boost natural test levels back up?

I also have an old bottle of Formadrol Extreme by LG (anti-estrogen) would this serve me any purpose if I ran this along with my cycle to avoid estrogen effects, or is it just not potent enough for aas?

Last I have a bottle of Methyl Masterdrol (strength prohormone) Would this be more beneficial to run with pct instead of the test booster?

Sorry to highjack this thread was relevant to my questions and I didn't want to start a thread in the supp section no one visits there lol.

no worries bro, i want to know this stuff too

**JBarron** · 06-06-2010, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by JBarron

I have a few questions about this.

I have an otc test booster I bought a while back and never used. It's called IGF2 by Applied Nutracueticals, I know people who swear by it, and am friends with their spokesman.

Anyways, would I get any use out of using this product along with pct to boost natural test levels back up?

I also have an old bottle of Formadrol Extreme by LG (anti-estrogen) would this serve me any purpose if I ran this along with my cycle to avoid estrogen effects, or is it just not potent enough for aas?

Last I have a bottle of Methyl Masterdrol (strength prohormone) Would this be more beneficial to run with pct instead of the test booster?

Sorry to highjack this thread was relevant to my questions and I didn't want to start a thread in the supp section no one visits there lol.

Bump, anyone have any answers for this well laid out question

**HawaiianPride.** · 06-06-2010, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by JBarron

I have a few questions about this.

I have an otc test booster I bought a while back and never used. It's called IGF2 by Applied Nutracueticals, I know people who swear by it, and am friends with their spokesman.

Anyways, would I get any use out of using this product along with pct to boost natural test levels back up? People do this all the time. If you have the proper SERMS then nothing else needs to be thrown in the mix though.

I also have an old bottle of Formadrol Extreme by LG (anti-estrogen) would this serve me any purpose if I ran this along with my cycle to avoid estrogen effects, or is it just not potent enough for aas? You can. It's effectiveness probably will not be guaranteed. If your Prone to Estrogenic Related Side Affects, stick to AI's or SERMS.

Last I have a bottle of Methyl Masterdrol (strength prohormone) Would this be more beneficial to run with pct instead of the test booster? Never cycle a PH during PCT.

Sorry to highjack this thread was relevant to my questions and I didn't want to start a thread in the supp section no one visits there lol.

Bold.

**JBarron** · 06-06-2010, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Bold.

Thanks mate, I will try the test booster during pct for shits n gigs, I suppose it couldn't hurt anything.

So far no ersers here (knock on wood)

**nwjt** · 06-06-2010, 10:35 PM

If you have real AAS, why even bother with PH? PH are just AAS "wannabees" and completely worthless if you can get real gear.

Throw away the PH.

**JBarron** · 06-07-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by nwjt

If you have real AAS, why even bother with PH? PH are just AAS "wannabees" and completely worthless if you can get real gear.

Throw away the PH.

Well I obviously wouldn't be using the ph's along with my aas cycle.

My question was, would I benefit from running a ph during pct. This was answered for me.

**nwjt** · 06-07-2010, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by JBarron

Well I obviously wouldn't be using the ph's along with my aas cycle.

My question was, would I benefit from running a ph during pct. This was answered for me.

I understand, but the answer is the same. If you have AAS, then you don't need PH EVER.