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Thread: Tbol or anavar?????
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06-02-2010, 04:59 PM #1
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Tbol or anavar?????
So I've been looking into starting a cycle of anavar only, around 50-70 ED, for 4-6 weeks, and PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20. However after reading a lot of threads on here I'm curious about Tbol. The results seem to be similar, its way cheaper, and it seems that a lot of people trying to get anavar have been ripped off and got Tbol instead. I'm just looking to lose some body fat, gain some strength, and a little lean muscle mass for the summer and boot camp in late aug. I'm 24, 5'10', 203-206 and around 15% body fat, and have a good diet. Once again I'm not looking to gain a lot of size, just gain a little lean muscle and lose some body fat. This will also be my first cycle so i have no experience with either and I'd really love some feed back from people who have tried one or the other or both. oh also I've heard mixed results of how both tbol and especially var might effect endurance (from a couple threads), I'm if anyone else has had this problem, or maybe increased endurance? because i'll need to be running a few miles at least three times a week to get in shape for boot camp, so any personal experience with endurance on a var or tbol only cycle would be nice. thanks.
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06-02-2010, 06:33 PM #2
var and/or tbol have been pretty popular for people who use oral cycles for the first time and do not want massive bulks and sides. both coumpounds are easy on the liver but still dosing with liver protectant is advised.
personally, i've done tbol only, var only and tbol/var cycle in the past. in terms of BF loss from the cycles, it has been minimal for me given i'm already sitting on 9% BF. reckon i might have drop down another 1% when i was using clen in my PCT. both compounds give u vascularity (depending on ur BF during cycle), strength and lean mass. Tbol seems to increase your weight a little more than var, as tbol is afterall derived from dbol without the water retention.
its hard to provide a specific expected results from the cycles as everyone's body reacts differently. But i would say, maybe u can start with a tbol only cycle (given the lower cost) and add clen to rid those excess BF. then move onto var cycle or combo much later on. that way, u'll be able to compare them. some has had great results from tbol, whilst others have better results from var. for me, i know i can rely on tbol for strength gain and a bit of a lean mass...
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06-03-2010, 01:58 PM #3
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thanks. how did you cycle in the clen ? 100MCG ed during pct? or what would be a good dose to start off on to try it?
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07-14-2010, 08:16 PM #4
sorry for the late reply to the post. u gotta get a feel for your tolerance with clen as everyone's different. i did a 2weeks cycle with the clen during my pct. for me, i started at 40mcg ed and when up to about 120mcg. my tolerence to clen is really high and had hardly any sides apart from mild crampings. if its the first time u're trying clen, dont exceed 80mcg unless ur body copes well with the sides.
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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