cycle help

**silverback11** · 06-16-2010, 10:43 AM

thinking of and open to suggestions on what ever would be better

sus 250mg 2/wk for 12 weeks

oral winny 50mg ed for first 4 weeks

what would be good to use after the 4weeks of winny? thinking oral tren but need suggestion on dose

pct

nolva 20mg ed

hcg 500iu ed 1st week 250ed 2d week

age 29
ht 6'
wt 250
bf 12 also waiting til i'm about 10% before i start cycle
exp 15yrs
exp with aas couple of weak cycles t-50 with d-bol a few years ago

**HawaiianPride.** · 06-16-2010, 10:47 AM

Pct is wack. Take HCG out, replace with torem or clomid and adjust dosages accordingly. I favor Tbol over Win anyday. Something to consider if your worried about sides. Pct begins 3 weeks after last inject.

**Knockout_Power** · 06-16-2010, 10:50 AM

No point starting your cycle with winny, end it with 4-5 weeks if you use it. If you are fairly new to cycling, I would stay away from oral tren . And since this look like your first injectable cycle, just the sus250 will produce great gains.

Save the HCG for on cycle if you notice your boys starting to shrink and get that PCT in check. Otherwise, it could be a simple and successful cycle

**silverback11** · 06-16-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

No point starting your cycle with winny, end it with 4-5 weeks if you use it. If you are fairly new to cycling, I would stay away from oral tren . And since this look like your first injectable cycle, just the sus250 will produce great gains.

Save the HCG for on cycle if you notice your boys starting to shrink and get that PCT in check. Otherwise, it could be a simple and successful cycle

i will change that thank you... also its not my first cycle but its been a few years since i've used the real thing. meaning i've been using prohormone cycles on and off over the past years with decent results. but like anyone i want better results.

**silverback11** · 06-16-2010, 10:51 AM

thank you i will do that... but one question whats wrong with hcg ?

**HawaiianPride.** · 06-16-2010, 10:56 AM

Nothing. I keep it in my cycles not after.

**silverback11** · 06-16-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Nothing. I keep it in my cycles not after.

ok i was just wondering because i've always seen it as pct in most cycles

**bjohnson1968** · 06-16-2010, 11:20 AM

6' 250 and 12% body fat is pretty impressive you got any pics

**silverback11** · 06-16-2010, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by bjohnson1968

6' 250 and 12% body fat is pretty impressive you got any pics

sure i'll try to get them up some how... but fyi i'm a football player and really more worried about strength and speed than i am physique

**wriggz** · 06-16-2010, 04:09 PM

ive just finished my second test and deca cycle.
only a mild cycle as i wasnt looking for DRAMATIC results..
i ran 1mg test cyproinate 1mg decca for 7weeks, then bumped the last 2weeks upto 1.5mg.

i was considering my pct when a freind ov mine recommended using Winstrol , instead?

saying that it will enable me to keep my gains, lose the water and even rip more fat after?
would this be wise??
id say 6weeks 50mg a day tabs?

i plan to do this at in 5days any help is apreciated. thankyou

**Knockout_Power** · 06-16-2010, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by wriggz

ive just finished my second test and deca cycle.
only a mild cycle as i wasnt looking for DRAMATIC results..
i ran 1mg test cyproinate 1mg decca for 7weeks, then bumped the last 2weeks upto 1.5mg.

i was considering my pct when a freind ov mine recommended using Winstrol , instead?

saying that it will enable me to keep my gains, lose the water and even rip more fat after?
would this be wise??
id say 6weeks 50mg a day tabs?

i plan to do this at in 5days any help is apreciated. thankyou

best to start your own thread... and Im not sure about your doses... 1mg/wk? that is super light, seeings how hrt is 175-200/wk... and if you did 1-1.5g, who the hell calls that a "mild cycle"