Sustanon - when do the afterburners turn on?

**kenny1022** · 06-09-2010, 11:31 AM

I'm on my third week of sustanon , 500mg EW, and I was wondering when most people using sust feel it kick-in and when they notice the mass coming on assuming work-outs and diet is on point. Yes, yes, I know all bodies are different but just trying to get a general opinion...

**gixxerboy1** · 06-09-2010, 11:37 AM

4 weeks

**Knockout_Power** · 06-09-2010, 11:44 AM

week 3 should show libido increases and by week 5 the mass should start piling on

**kenny1022** · 06-09-2010, 11:48 AM

Gracias. I'm on a deload week after 5-weeks of hitting the weights hard, one set not including warm-up sets, for all muscle groups (Upper body Mon/Thurs and Lower Body Tues/Fri) so hopefully, I'll be burning the rocket fuel next week when I start the pump again for another 5-weeks, adding an additional set per week until I hit 6 sets per muscle group twice a week on Week 11.

**Matt** · 06-09-2010, 11:51 AM

If your still consuming just over 2000cals a day then you may only see very small gains, and those may just be water..

**kenny1022** · 06-09-2010, 11:56 AM

nah man, doing 2700 cals on a 160 lb, 5' 7" frame...you're prob gonna laugh but doing 240 grams of protein is a challenge for me. thank god for whey...

**discobizkid** · 06-09-2010, 11:59 AM

I just want to know where the girls are in your guys Avs! Dayum!

Week 5 bro. On my 5th week on sust right now and the gains are piling on.

**kenny1022** · 06-09-2010, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by discobizkid

I just want to know where the girls are in your guys Avs! Dayum!

Week 5 bro. On my 5th week on sust right now and the gains are piling on.

If that's your AV, it seems like it. Keep it up, bro.

On a side note, do you ever notice some people hitting the gear hard, tend to have protruding stomach despite having sick definition / low body fat? Is that really ab muscles pushing against your large intestines or just a myth? If so, is it better to just hit the core exercises with high reps and no weights?

**Matt** · 06-09-2010, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

If that's your AV, it seems like it. Keep it up, bro.

On a side note, do you ever notice some people hitting the gear hard, tend to have protruding stomach despite having sick definition / low body fat? Is that really ab muscles pushing against your large intestines or just a myth? If so, is it better to just hit the core exercises with high reps and no weights?

I would go for water retention/ bloat that causes that, jmo....

**gixxerboy1** · 06-09-2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by discobizkid

I just want to know where the girls are in your guys Avs! Dayum!

Week 5 bro. On my 5th week on sust right now and the gains are piling on.

mines in bed sleeping

**gixxerboy1** · 06-09-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

nah man, doing 2700 cals on a 160 lb, 5' 7" frame...you're prob gonna laugh but doing 240 grams of protein is a challenge for me. thank god for whey...

not if you try. im 5'6 180 right now and not on anything

**discobizkid** · 06-09-2010, 12:18 PM

Funny you should ask that question. I was looking in the mirror today and noticed exactly what you are referring to. Have you read that about the muscles pushing against the large intestines?

Yep. that's my Av.

**kenny1022** · 06-09-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by discobizkid

Funny you should ask that question. I was looking in the mirror today and noticed exactly what you are referring to. Have you read that about the muscles pushing against the large intestines?

Yep. that's my Av.

I heard one of the experts/pinners mention it on the documentary "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" but I wouldn't take my word for it. Somone told me to just stick with no weights and high reps when hitting the core and I shouldn't have that problem.

You don't have that problem, bro.

**Knockout_Power** · 06-09-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

nah man, doing 2700 cals on a 160 lb, 5' 7" frame...you're prob gonna laugh but doing 240 grams of protein is a challenge for me. thank god for whey...

If you are taking in even 25% of your protein with whey shakes then there is a good reason you dont see a lot of growth... real food works best bro. 2000 cals is what I use to cut.

**kenny1022** · 06-11-2010, 05:45 AM

I'm entering week 4 this saturday. So far, I haven't seen too much of a change.

On a down note, I noticed my nipples get slightly swollen and sensitive at times. Do you think I should use an aromasin (i.e. Exemestane) at a low dosage like 10 mg ED during the cycle and stop 3 weeks after my last pin?

Thanks.

Ken

**kenny1022** · 06-11-2010, 06:39 AM

Anyone?

**-Ender-** · 06-11-2010, 06:47 AM

kenny. They're telling you to eat.
I would suggest that you head over to the diet section and do some research.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

**50+** · 06-11-2010, 06:56 AM

I started feeling it at week 2, at week 3-4 it was kicking in strong. I'm in week 5 now and have put on 11lbs and body fat has gone from 11.5% to 12.3%. My strength has increased dramatically. This is my 1st cycle at age 53. I'm following Ronnies slingshot training method.

**50+** · 06-11-2010, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

I heard one of the experts/pinners mention it on the documentary "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" but I wouldn't take my word for it. Somone told me to just stick with no weights and high reps when hitting the core and I shouldn't have that problem.

You don't have that problem, bro.

+1 on the high reps. To added to that, I was told a long time ago to do just one set. I do 300 crunches 5 times a week and my abbs have always been pretty ripped. Even at 12.3% bf 205 lbs my abbs look pretty good.

**kenny1022** · 06-11-2010, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by -Ender-

kenny. They're telling you to eat.
I would suggest that you head over to the diet section and do some research.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

Ender - thanks. I saw the clips and the info was amazing. On a 160 lb frame (gained 3 - 5 pounds since I started my cycle already), 2700 calories with 800 cals coming from protein, I think the diet is dialed-in.

Anyone have any advice about the nipples? If it's just slightly swollen and no lumps, should I hold out on the aromasin ? Anyone incorporate extremesane with PCT of Nolva and Clomid?

**kenny1022** · 06-11-2010, 08:48 AM

help!

**Knockout_Power** · 06-11-2010, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

, should I hold out on the aromasin? Anyone incorporate extremesane with PCT of Nolva and Clomid?

Aromasin /Exemestane = same thing... if you feel gyno coming on then I would definately get on it.

As far you cry for help, you should reread this thread... people are giving you the help you need, its just not the answers you want

**kenny1022** · 06-11-2010, 11:21 AM

yea i know Aromasin and Exemestane are one in the same. my question is if i'm only feeling slightly sensitive nipples and nothing else, whether i should start taking aromasin at 10 mg ED as a precaution. also, if anyone uses aromasin with nolva and clomid during PCT.

**gixxerboy1** · 06-11-2010, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by kenny1022

Ender - thanks. I saw the clips and the info was amazing. On a 160 lb frame (gained 3 - 5 pounds since I started my cycle already), 2700 calories with 800 cals coming from protein, I think the diet is dialed-in.

Anyone have any advice about the nipples? If it's just slightly swollen and no lumps, should I hold out on the aromasin? Anyone incorporate extremesane with PCT of Nolva and Clomid?

dude i'm 5'6 180 and not on anything right now. i wrestled in college at 119 or 125. Your 160 cause of what you eat. You cant use the excuse i have a 160 frame. you have a 160 frame cause you only eat enough to support 160. If you want to be bigger you have to eat for that weight. Real food not shakes.