New cycle help - advice needed please!

[anonanon]

Hey there. I'm thinking of starting my new cycle and was hoping to get some feedback from people more experienced than myself with this. I've done research and this is what I've come up with for a 8 week cycle in my own brain. I'm open to suggestions at the moment with this. My goals are to increase my strength and vascularity and also to get bigger as well.

Weeks 1 - 8 - Anavar 40mg ED
Weeks 1 - 8 - Oral TBol 40mg ED
Weeks 1 - 8 - Test C 500/600 once a week
Weeks 1 - 8 - Arimidex 1mg ED
Weeks 9 - 12 - PCT of 20/20/20/20 Nolvadex with the first day being 40mg

I will also be running creatine (purple K) for the whole shebang as well, along with a Vitamin B supplement and Ascenta NutraSea fish oil supplements. My diet will be modified to include 1.5-2 grams of high quality protein per LB of bodyweight. I'll also have the Nolva on hand incase I get any extra gyno during the cycle, but I think that the Arimidex will help with that.

A quick few questions though. Would it be beneficial to split the Test C into two equal dosages throughout the week, or is one pin a week enough? Also, any idea what kind of results this cycle will bring? I will take pictures every week (and share them too if anyone is interested) to monitor and track my progress. Lastly, considering Test C has a long half life when would it be most advantageous to start my PCT? Week 9 or week 10?

Thanks for any help you can give!

[Bossman]

What are you stats"
age
ht
wt bf%
training exp
cycle exp

8 weeks is short for a Test C cycle, 8 weeks of orals is a bit much. Usually used for a kickstart. How much research have you done at this point??

[anonanon]

My stats are:

Age - 25 years
Height - 5 foot 11 inches
Weight - 205lbs
Body Fat % - I'm not sure exactly, but it is a bit higher than I'd like it to be. Maybe +/- 15%
Training experience - 3 years, the last 18 months of it I've been very serious with my cardio and endurance training.
Cycle Experience - 8 weeks of Anavar - 40mg/ed, also did T3 for three weeks. I've also used the ECA stack for weight loss on and off for about a year. Off that now.

I've gone over the steroid .com articles more than once and have researched google for as much info and advice as I can get about this gear I want to use. I'm new at pinning but have learned that test is the base of every stack and that test C has the same effectiveness as test E (Although apparently test C packs more of a "punch"). I really liked the results I got from the Var my first cycle and I already have the Var along with the Tbol, so I'd like to use them. I believe that 4-6 weeks is a good base for orals but var can be run longer as it is the weakest on your liver. Should I use the Tbol for only the first 4 weeks to jump start until the test kicks in? If so, should I up the dose from 40mg/ed to 60mg/ed?

I should also say that throughout the whole thing I'll be taking Liv.62 and milk thistle to help my liver out.

Thanks for the help!

[bjpennnn]

your stats look solid my only suggestion would be to switch your test with test prop and run it at a dose you feel comfortable with 100mg eod is a good starting point. and I would drop the the oral tbo and get more anavar to run it 80-100mg ed.
pct should be as follows
Day 1-18: Clomid @ 100 mgs
Day 1-18: Nolva @ 40 mgs
Day 18-36: Clomid @ 50 mgs
Day 18-36: Nolva @ 20 mgs

[anonanon]

Well I did like the results I got from the Var but I have at the moment just enough to do 8 weeks of both Var and Tbol. I could buy more Var but it is expensive and I don't want to waste the Tbol.

I was thinking of test prop but I've never pinned myself before and am not sure how much it will hurt, so I was going for the gear with less injections. Would test prop be better for a novice than test C or E?

I can try that PCT, I would just have to buy a bottle of clomid. Shouldn't be that hard to find....

Thanks again for the help, most appreciated!

[ghettoboyd]

if youve never pinned before then stick with the test c cus ed or eod injections and the extra pain that comes along with prop may be too much for you to handle imho....also try splitting up you injections into 2x instead of cramming it all into one, one may prove to be uncomfortable seing as this is your first injectable cycle...

[Bossman]

if youve never pinned before then stick with the test c cus ed or eod injections and the extra pain that comes along with prop may be too much for you to handle imho....also try splitting up you injections into 2x instead of cramming it all into one, one may prove to be uncomfortable seing as this is your first injectable cycle...

XX2^^^ I love test p and use it with every cycle but the first time out may be too rough from not only the pain, but frequency.

You want to see what you will get from Test only. If you run the var for a healthy dose (80mg) for 4 weeks the test C will be kicking in about the time your done with the var. Test alone will work wonders, even more so your first time out. I would try to extend the test out to a minimum of 10 weeks.

Also, the adex dose is high. I would run it .25mg EOD. If you develop issues you can bump it up.

[bjpennnn]

sorry didnt catch it was his first inj. cycle. you got some solid info here.

[ArmyMan04]

XX2^^^ I love test p and use it with every cycle but the first time out may be too rough from not only the pain, but frequency.

You want to see what you will get from Test only. If you run the var for a healthy dose (80mg) for 4 weeks the test C will be kicking in about the time your done with the var. Test alone will work wonders, even more so your first time out. I would try to extend the test out to a minimum of 10 weeks.

Also, the adex dose is high. I would run it .25mg EOD. If you develop issues you can bump it up.

Agreed with the great info. Im going to try to incorporate some of this.
AM

[anonanon]

I will stick with the Test C at bi-weekly injections. I've also read that heating your gear up under warm water for a bit before you inject also can help with the pain, is this true? Would make sense as that way it is more similar to body temperature. I will try to buy another vial and run for 10 weeks instead of 8.

How long after the last pin of Test C do I wait before starting PCT due to the long lasting esters? 1 week?

The caps that I have of Arimidex are in 1mg concentrations, so will it hurt to just take 1mg EOD? I'd rather not split the capsules as these are very small.

I will shelve the Tbol and run the Var for 4 weeks at 80MG. 40 was good, so 80 should be great.

[anonanon]

Bump on the PCT question. How long should I wait before starting the PCT considering the long lasting esters of the Test C?