Winstrol Question

**JScondition** · 06-14-2010, 03:52 PM

I know that Winny can be pretty liver toxic in oral form, but if injecting winny will it still have a harsher effect on the liver than other compounds that are dosed IM?

thanks

**Vullfromsc** · 06-14-2010, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by JScondition

I know that Winny can be pretty liver toxic in oral form, but if injecting winny will it still have a harsher effect on the liver than other compounds that are dosed IM?

thanks

from everything i have read / seen, injecting winny will REDUCE the liver toxicity, but not completely eliminate it (not sure if that answers your question)

**Tyler694** · 06-14-2010, 04:33 PM

Yep, much more safe (and painful) to inject winny!

**c-Z** · 06-14-2010, 04:35 PM

Orals tend to be more toxic then IM steroids ... However i have heard winny. To inject is painful as hell..... as stated.

**VanillaGorilla1** · 06-15-2010, 02:26 AM

Just be cautious with the more toxic orals. Take milk thistle, or something related, get your liver checked out, do some blood work, etc. If you're concerned, act on it. Don't hesitate to make sure everything is good to go first.

**hankdiesel** · 06-15-2010, 03:36 AM

No one answered his question. Is winny more toxic than any other injectable? I don't know the answer so I won't give him a b.s rsponse about oral steroid usage. I hope it's not the most toxic injectable because I've injected a lot of it. 2nd most only to of coarse test.

**JScondition** · 06-15-2010, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

No one answered his question. Is winny more toxic than any other injectable? I don't know the answer so I won't give him a b.s rsponse about oral steroid usage. I hope it's not the most toxic injectable because I've injected a lot of it. 2nd most only to of coarse test.

LOL yeah I was hoping I could get a clean cut answer on it, but I guess no one knows. I figure I have seen cycle logs with an oral kickstart at the begining and winstrol (IM) at the end, so people either didn't consider injecting winstrol to be liver toxic, or they just didn't know.

**Lemonada8** · 06-15-2010, 10:58 PM

it has to do with the chemical structure of winny that makes it liver toxic... it is considered a 17a steroid (theres normal test with a ester, a 17a compund, and a 19 nor compound) these are the 3 types of steroids
when it goes thru the liver, it gets broken down which is hard on the liver... if you take winny orally it will have to pass thru the liver first then get into the bloodstream then broken down again by the liver (which isnt as toxic as the initial breakdown)
to inject winny u bypass the first liver breaking down so its actually stronger in the muscles, and less toxic on your liver because it will be used mostly up then the remainder broken down by the liver..
its the initial breakdown of the oral steroid which is toxic mainly... it has to do with the 17a structure which makes it A) oral-ability and B) liver toxic

hope that answered ur question more... and they are right, i tried to inject winny and it hurt like hell! i did prop for my cycle so it wasnt me just bein a puss... i quit injectin it and jus drank it... if u take milk thistle and dont drink heavy ull be fine and wont stress out ur liver too much (u shoul dhave a good diet and healthy before anyways so u should be good) if ur worried just get some bloodwork done by ur doc, just tell him u want ur liver panel done (its a pretty commonpractice so no raised eyebrows towards gear if ur worried about that)