Got a question on deca

**gobblear** · 06-19-2010, 07:55 AM

I just got back into the game and am going with test and tren enan on my first cycle. 300mg ea per week. A year ago when i did aas, i did two cycle of dec with test and had amazing alleviation of joint pain. My question is:
while on my current cycle which will last ~10 wks, would it be worthwhile to use the deca at say 100mg/wk to help soothe my joint problems? Obviously i do have a lot of joint problems is why I am asking? Anyone ever used deca for this purpose primarily?

**magic32** · 06-19-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by gobblear

I just got back into the game and am going with test and tren enan on my first cycle. 300mg ea per week. A year ago when i did aas, i did two cycle of dec with test and had amazing alleviation of joint pain. My question is:
while on my current cycle which will last ~10 wks, would it be worthwhile to use the deca at say 100mg/wk to help soothe my joint problems?
Yes.

Obviously i do have a lot of joint problems is why I am asking? Anyone ever used deca for this purpose primarily?
Yes, both primarily especially when guys have significant pain or multi-site problems, and secondarily when they really want Deca properties and to relieve joint pain.

So “yes” you’re justified in this.
However, do you know the source of your joint pain, i.e. cartilage, tendonitis, spurs, etc.? And if so, have you looked into genuine remedies yet?

**Bigdog99** · 06-19-2010, 08:27 AM

not to crash the thread......but you say "However, do you know the source of your joint pain, i.e. cartilage, tendonitis, spurs, etc.? " would Deca not work in some cases to help with joint pain? I have never used Deca, but I am considering using it b/c I am 38 and starting to "feel it"! Heard it does great things for the joints and would be the only reason I would add it to a cycle.

**gobblear** · 06-19-2010, 08:42 AM

The source of my pain varies.....I have had 3 rotcuff operations (albeit 4yrs ago) on my right shoulder, plus I have a mild form of degenerative arthritis(not the kind that effect immune function) this mail bothewrs my elbows. in addition I have lived and played hard, I turn 31 tomorrw

**gobblear** · 06-19-2010, 08:45 AM

Bigdog- I will tell u that from my experience and the experience of some of my local buddies, I know exactly what u mean about "starting to feel it"....deca sure helps with that....better mix in some test though w the deca......or downstairs dont work so well!

**Bigdog99** · 06-19-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by gobblear

Bigdog- I will tell u that from my experience and the experience of some of my local buddies, I know exactly what u mean about "starting to feel it"....deca sure helps with that....better mix in some test though w the deca......or downstairs dont work so well!

I would def do with Test. I am on Sust and Tren A right now. Heard Deca and Tren don't mix (Magic....True?) so I was going to wait until my next cycle in Fall in do it. Will Do Sust/Mast cycle and was going to throw in a small dose of Deca so I could train a little harder. Wasn't sure how much Deca to do with it to get the benifits for the joints.

**gobblear** · 06-19-2010, 09:02 AM

I was under same impression as u regarding deca wont mix with tren . And you asked the perfect question I should have asked originally " How much deca would b enuff to aid in joint pain" What do ya say Magic? 100mg/week as I suggested earlier enuff?

**magic32** · 06-19-2010, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Bigdog99

not to crash the thread......but you say "However, do you know the source of your joint pain, i.e. cartilage, tendonitis, spurs, etc.? " would Deca not work in some cases to help with joint pain? I have never used Deca, but I am considering using it b/c I am 38 and starting to "feel it"! Heard it does great things for the joints and would be the only reason I would add it to a cycle.

“No” Deca would not work in any cases as a remedy, not any more than a cortisol shot would. Similarly, Deca’s benefits in this area serve only to temporarily condition/lubricate the inflamed problem area without impacting the actual problem.

Originally Posted by gobblear

The source of my pain varies.....I have had 3 rotcuff operations (albeit 4yrs ago) on my right shoulder, plus I have a mild form of degenerative arthritis(not the kind that effect immune function) this mail bothewrs my elbows. in addition I have lived and played hard, I turn 31 tomorrw

Obviously, your problems are significant and varied but may be in part due to degenerative cartilage issues. Assuming (like most of the joint pain world) you’ve at least tried Glucosamine, but have you tried it with it’s amplifier Chondroitin, in a base of MSM? The three of these work synergistically to exponentially magnify results. However, you’ll also need the proper ratio for optimal effect, which I’m not certain of, but I believe is 1500:800:500 respectively. Check out Knox’s NutraJoint Plus and Osteo Bi-Flex Advanced, both are cutting edge and I think one has the clinical ratio mentioned above.

Best to you.

**gobblear** · 06-19-2010, 10:30 AM

Yes I have tried all the MSM and their combos. And i think u r right about a cortisone shot being about the same....difference is...doc wont give me a shot in all my problem areas. Thanks for the post(s)