New and need advice

**footyfan12** · 06-22-2010, 07:41 AM

hey im new to this im thinking of using in the near future after i get enough knowledge about everything im gonna be doing, for starters stats

im 25,
6ft 2 "
106kgs
about 17% - 20% BF
havent done any cycles on AAS before only taken proteins, creatines etc
i know a little about PCT, i know its definately important but still need some advice

been training for about 9 years fairly heavily, i play top grade rugby league and have been trained by a pro power lifter on my gym techniques/ routines etc

diet has been very good for last 3 months as its the middle of football season atm and have been very strict with myself, lots of broccoli, chicken, oats

Im not looking to rushing into using AAS, i would like to start in about 3-4 months time once i have a good understanding, im not looking to build big like a body builder but to lower my BF%, i dont mind if i get a little bit bigger but would rather tone up more, i do alot of cardio work as well as gym work.

would like to do a simple cycle first off with some sort of test and finish off with something like winny or clen towards end of cycle.

i live in Australia so its really hard to get alot of gear here but would like to know off you guys what you would reccommend ???

**G4R** · 06-22-2010, 07:49 AM

Def get your diet down first. It sounds like you are trying to do that now, which is good. Get that BF% down to around 12 first. Also, remember, you shouldnt start any steroids until you have reached your maximum natural potential. Steroids should be a last option.

Keep researching like you are doing, read all the stickies at least 10 times. Memorize them.

***D7M*** · 06-22-2010, 07:49 AM

Good call....no need to rush into anything.

Most will advise you to try to lower your body fat to a respectable level before starting AAS, and they are right.

In the meantime, keep researching, reading the stickies and asking questions around here.

**footyfan12** · 06-22-2010, 08:50 AM

yeh i will thanks for advice,

my diest is pretty good at the moment, 6 decent meals a day not huge meals but enough mostly rolled oats/yoghurt fruit etc, chicken and veg nothing fancy..

is there anything else i can do to lower BF% im training failry heavily ATM with alot of cardio is there anything else that can aid BF% loss or does anyone have a good diet plan or anything ?

**G4R** · 06-22-2010, 08:53 AM

Just get your diet in check, and hit up some cardio. Check out our diet section to get help. You should try to get on a good cutting diet for the time being.

Check this out:
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...

**footyfan12** · 06-22-2010, 09:16 AM

yeh no worries thanks, do you have any reccommendations on what test is good for a first cycle and what PCT to have for that and any other in betweens ?

**G4R** · 06-22-2010, 09:19 AM

Test is Test. Usually first timers use E or C.

Test beginner cycle info

**azz10** · 06-24-2010, 07:48 AM

with you playing top grade footy and having a pro power lifter as a trainer, i'm sure they can help u work on ur diet mate. but do make use of the diet section on the forum to gain valuable knowledge.

**footyfan12** · 07-01-2010, 07:02 AM

yeh they are helping out fine bu im not seeing any body fat cutting , my diet is solid as at the moment and has been for a while, i just cant seem to shed that fat around lower stomach and thighs, my cardio and endurance training is pretty heavy with training and also hitting weights very often, if i take protein like whey powders etc i can gain weight and strength fairly easily eg i gained 13kg in 3 months and BF remained the same but my strength really improved for example squats went from 120kg to 175kg in that time at 1 rep max and incline dumbell from 35kg to 50kg at 8 reps while on protein jsut that fat around my gut stays there, where as on the other side if i dont have any protein and keep my diet i can lose as much as 10-12kg but sill have that fat but lose strength. ive tried over the counter fat metabolisers, and all kinds of stuff is there anything else i can take to help shed that fat before i start a cycle when im ready ?? would something like clen work ?? if i can get rid of this i would be happy not to do a cycle until im older and have little nat test left.