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    emo
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    bringing my sex drive back up

    i took a cycle a while back and did a pct and i just don't seem 100% like i used to. still can perform but just not the sex drive i had before at all. this is the research i have come up with.

    When i get back from offshore i am going to get some blood work done anything i should request to get tested for? I will be waiting on my results before i buy anything to move in the right direction.

    ZMA- Optimum ZMA
    tribulus terrestris- Ultimate Nutrition Bulgarian Tribulus
    MACA- Sequel Naturals MacaSure
    panax ginseng- Im guessing any generic will work
    fresh royal jelly- YS Royal Jelly/Honey Bee. most stable and effective when mixed in quality honey. Natural honey preserves all its potency. 650 mg Royal Jelly in each teaspoon
    primrose oil synergy- Im guessing any generic will work

    tell me what u think of what i have picked so fare. if there is a better product than the one listed please share

    thank you for your time
    chris

    if i have missed anything let me know

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    what was your cycle and pct?

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    How long ago was your cycle and what compounds did you run?

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    deca and test and its been a while want to say a year pct was nolvadex

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    How long did you do the cycle for?

    When you go for a blood work, the doctor should test levels for Total testosterone , Free Testosterone, LH, and FSH

    It's unlikely they'll bother with Estrogen until after these results come in, and the Free test, LH and FSH are out.

    I don't know how old you are, so it's hard to say whether you are experiencing the onset of andropause , but I do not believe Nolvadex is sufficient alone as a PCT. Nolvadex blocks Estrogen, to help prevent Gyno. Clomid and HCG are what are used for maintaining endogenous testosterone production. On the other hand, too low an Estrogen level can also affect libido.

    Going from what you've written, it is possible that you may have already have had a low T level before your cycle, then, without the use of HCG or Clomid, post cycle your natty test is even lower. Since then, you may have experienced the onset of hypogonadism, and are now feeling the symptoms beginning such as lower libido, as well as things like fatigue, some lethargy, some aches...and so on...this is how it progresses.

    I hope with the results of your blood work, you may be able to increase your natty test by a regimen of HCG for a few months, otherwise, if it is low T, and HCG will not work, or depending on your age (ie, late 30's /40's) the doctor may prescribe ongoing TRT.

    supplements are always an option, but if andropause causing hypogonadism, or ASIH (Anabolic Steroid Induced Hypogonadism) is the cause, then in reality HCG, or long term TRT may be the eventual viable treatment.

    Other thing is, it could be diet, or infection, being the cause. Or another ailment such as circulation, blood pressure, and so on.

    You're doing the right thing going for blood work first. If that's all ok, then get the doc to check for another medical reason before supplements, this could hide something that needs treating.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbg View Post
    How long did you do the cycle for?

    When you go for a blood work, the doctor should test levels for Total testosterone , Free Testosterone, LH, and FSH

    It's unlikely they'll bother with Estrogen until after these results come in, and the Free test, LH and FSH are out.

    I don't know how old you are, so it's hard to say whether you are experiencing the onset of andropause , but I do not believe Nolvadex is sufficient alone as a PCT. Nolvadex blocks Estrogen, to help prevent Gyno. Clomid and HCG are what are used for maintaining endogenous testosterone production. On the other hand, too low an Estrogen level can also affect libido.

    Going from what you've written, it is possible that you may have already have had a low T level before your cycle, then, without the use of HCG or Clomid, post cycle your natty test is even lower. Since then, you may have experienced the onset of hypogonadism, and are now feeling the symptoms beginning such as lower libido, as well as things like fatigue, some lethargy, some aches...and so on...this is how it progresses.

    I hope with the results of your blood work, you may be able to increase your natty test by a regimen of HCG for a few months, otherwise, if it is low T, and HCG will not work, or depending on your age (ie, late 30's /40's) the doctor may prescribe ongoing TRT.

    supplements are always an option, but if andropause causing hypogonadism, or ASIH (Anabolic Steroid Induced Hypogonadism) is the cause, then in reality HCG, or long term TRT may be the eventual viable treatment.

    Other thing is, it could be diet, or infection, being the cause. Or another ailment such as circulation, blood pressure, and so on.

    You're doing the right thing going for blood work first. If that's all ok, then get the doc to check for another medical reason before supplements, this could hide something that needs treating.

    Good luck
    i am 26 now when i did my cycle i was damn 23 so its been longer than i thought. Im sorry with all this missing info yes i was taking Clomid and Nolvadex from ar-r for pct. i also took a blood test for a visit i went a month ago i emailed my doc to get it hope i have already been test for it

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    rage rv1 brought my sex drive back up after a tren cycle! worth a try for $30

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    I only trust pharm grade pct. You might have hurt ur boys pretty good if you doin't feel like. Id do 4 weeks of clomid/nolv/hcg to get them up and running or at least try to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inevitable View Post
    I only trust pharm grade pct. You might have hurt ur boys pretty good if you doin't feel like. Id do 4 weeks of clomid/nolv/hcg to get them up and running or at least try to.
    its not that i dont feel like it. just not as much as i used to it takes way longer to get going again instead of jumping right back into it

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    The bodies endogenous testosterone level will decline over time mate. It may not even be the AAS you have used.

    Get BW and then come back. BW is imperitive.

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    Welcome to your mid 20's my friend Those years of endless erections day in day out are gone. Perhaps it just a natural decline or settling of hormones? Mine gradually dropped in the same age span and I had never used AAS at that age. Is stress an issue or other substance abuse partly to blame or are you clean and generally relaxed?

    However to be safe a thorough blood test would be prudent as suggested above.

    good luck.

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    Just cycle permanently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choppers View Post
    Welcome to your mid 20's my friend Those years of endless erections day in day out are gone. Perhaps it just a natural decline or settling of hormones? Mine gradually dropped in the same age span and I had never used AAS at that age. Is stress an issue or other substance abuse partly to blame or are you clean and generally relaxed?

    However to be safe a thorough blood test would be prudent as suggested above.

    good luck.
    my job is a little stressful but i do not take any drugs. yeah i guess that could be it i have got blood work done but i dont know what they tested for. they dont have a scanner to email it. so i will pic it up mon to see it and set a appointment if its not the right BW.

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