Orel only Oxy/T-bol cycle (SECOND CYCLE)

[BigBrucie]

i did a cycle last year of deca /test/d-bol and due to unforeseen circumstances lost all my gains and some more. I need a asap response because im getting my stuff today. I no longer aspire to get big because its just not worth it, without steady income and with uni its prettey stupid idea trying to get bigger and bigger. I am just looking to put on few pounds for this reason i am staying away from injects (don't want a wardrobe change with all armani, gucci, lui viton I have) . so I was wondering which

6weeks
Oxy 50mg
Turanabol 40mg
adex e3d .5mg
Deprenyl e3d .5mg
(milk thistle, liv52, Saw Palmetto)


PCT
HCG

Clomid
tomaxifen

Dont give BS about toxicity that's a risk I would be taking and it over-hyped I know 5 people who have used oxy(with test) for as long as 8 weeks and their living just fine. Should i replace T-bol with D-bol and make it Adex EOD ? and what's chances of keeping gains from oxy .

[BigBrucie]

bump

[Noles12]

You dont want to get bigger and just want to gain some weight so you turn to steroids ?

Why not diet?

[BigBrucie]

You dont want to get bigger and just want to gain some weight so you turn to steroids ?

Why not diet?

your not pro why take AS
you not gaining anything (money, fame etc) why take AS
im taking AS because i want to take AS any response negating this is hypocrisy.
My reason for taking AS (put on few pounds) is just as valid as yours to put on a few stones.
why cant people get of there fat dicks and just reply to the question instead of showcasing there egos
the world would be a much safer place.
i diet and i train i wonder why i would consider AS...what a stupid question .its because i can take AS and chose to take AS .simple maths you do the equations

[Noles12]

i use AAS to put on mass not gain some weight. I want to get bigger and put on muscle. I play sports in which it benefits me. I dont think you will find anyone on this board that uses it for anything other than low levels or building muscle.

It is ridiculous to take AAS because you just want to take the easy way out on gaining weight. Eat more

[BigBrucie]

i use AAS to put on mass not gain some weight. I want to get bigger and put on muscle. I play sports in which it benefits me. I dont think you will find anyone on this board that uses it for anything other than low levels or building muscle.

It is ridiculous to take AAS because you just want to take the easy way out on gaining weight. Eat more

LOL i feel what your saying
but what use is it replying with diet advice LOL
I have past AS experience so trying to get approval for my second cycle
BB is an art form and the last time i checked big and aesthetic is not always in same sentence. I want a lean Aesthetic body that i am comfortable in and i am able to maintain. If i was a millionaire it would be a very different case i have priority s and at the moment its not getting big.
and let me point out taking AS in sports know that would be considered cheating so I can turn around and say "hey dude you taking easy option out why don't you f"£$%^& train hard like other pro athletes". lets not go there. just answer the initial question if you don't want to fine, stay of this post.

[Noles12]

LOL i feel what your saying
but what use is it replying with diet advice LOL
I have past AS experience so trying to get approval for my second cycle
BB is an art form and the last time i checked big and aesthetic is not always in same sentence. I want a lean Aesthetic body that i am comfortable in and i am able to maintain. If i was a millionaire it would be a very different case i have priority s and at the moment its not getting big.

If you cant afford it then you shouldnt be using AAS. Put that money towards food. Being lean and aesthetic with hardly any mass is very easy to achieve naturally.

You want approval but 7/8 of the people here will not give it to you. They will tell you diet is key.

Its not what you want to hear but its what you need to hear. The use in me replying in this way is to help people to make smart decisions and not think steroids are a wonder drug that makes you perfect

[BigBrucie]

If you cant afford it then you shouldnt be using AAS. Put that money towards food. Being lean and aesthetic with hardly any mass is very easy to achieve naturally.

You want approval but 7/8 of the people here will not give it to you. They will tell you diet is key.

Its not what you want to hear but its what you need to hear. The use in me replying in this way is to help people to make smart decisions and not think steroids are a wonder drug that makes you perfect

What makes you think that your diet is any better then mines. You have no grounds to make this assumption so cut the crap. Im taking AS because i want to put on gains (duh) but proportionately at a slow controlled rate and that's what i learned from my past cycle. to much gains require dedication to maintain and im not a meat-head in some lower end job or wannabe athlete trying to seek attention with my huge build when i can barely afford food LOL. i am taking a degree in physics and anticipating a well paying job in private sector then i can afford to get big whilst not worrying about my wardrobe and maintaining weight. This is what makes me sick about AS users there so pathetically pretentious WTF are you going to achieve by getting big your standard of life would decrease and fall into routine trust me i know i did it for 2 years and i regret it. i am being reasonable and making the best of all possible worlds

[Noles12]

What makes you think that your diet is any better then mines. You have no grounds to make this assumption so cut the crap. Im taking AS because i want to put on gains (duh) but proportionately at a slow controlled rate and that's what i learned from my past cycle. to much gains require dedication to maintain and im not a meat-head in some lower end job or wannabe athlete trying to seek attention with my huge build when i can barely afford food LOL. i am taking a degree in physics and anticipating a well paying job in private sector then i can afford to get big whilst not worrying about my wardrobe and maintaining weight. This is what makes me sick about AS users there so pathetically pretentious WTF are you going to achieve by getting big your standard of life would decrease and fall into routine trust me i know i did it for 2 years and i regret it. i am being reasonable and making the best of all possible worlds

Please post your diet and show me how its so good.

If you cant afford it how can you afford the right foods. You know there are tons of guys in great shape that have never touched AAS in their life. I was cut and pretty lean before i started. But i prefer to put on mass.

And seriously my standard of life will decrease because i get big. t has helped me in many ways, my size helps me in my job, in my sport, it helps my well being, and keeps me happy. I personally dont like being small. So my life would be worse if i were small.

You are one of those guys that wants it to be said how they want to hear it. But im not here to do that because its not right. I would never suggest AAS to someone who doesnt have enough money to support that lifestyle. I also dont recommend it to people who are not ready for AAS due to many possible reasons.

That is my personal choice and you will notice it the choice others have made too. Why do you think no one has come in here and told you to do it?

[BigBrucie]

All I am saying just because I stated that I do not intend to get huge you have taken that as a token of misguidance and assumed that i am not ready for AS. I want mass and i want gains and i have a choice between test/tren cycle vs oxy.t-bol cycle. The latter may give me less gains but in realist terms i am more likely to be able to retain majority gains whereas with test cycle due to past experience i am not likely to keep gains. Its a reasonable and logical argument based on my body. You big ego getting in the way of helping someone ? WTF are you rambling on about i just asked you for simple help. As for standards of living, what mean is that big guys tend to have a low standard of living in the sense that they are retards that spend there days doing nothing much aside from earning a little money and hitting the gym i see no great contribution to humanity or even there own existence just tools. I am being reasonable just because i want to do oral cycle does not mean i am not ready lol i have done a test/deca cycle so your argument fails. You spend time to respond to these arguments lol but you couldn't spend a few minutes responding to my original question lol that's what i mean by egotistical retards, must be low self esteem.

just to make you shut your mouth here is my diet

8 egg whites
1 cup oats
1 cup milk
1 scoop whey
cod liver oil
Multi vitmain

MET RX MRS

Two chicken breasts
bowl vegetable
flax seed oil

Brown rice
Curry
1 scoop protein shake
banana
BCAA

Training

2 oranges
2 scoops Whey (isolate)
Milk
Bowl Brown Pasta

Can tuna
Milk
Casein protein
Primrose oil
Multi vitamin

Night snacks-Nuts
Zinc

I hope that satisfied your little puny ego you ****

[Noles12]

All I am saying just because I stated that I do not intend to get huge you have taken that as a token of misguidance and assumed that i am not ready for AS. I want mass and i want gains and i have a choice between test/tren cycle vs oxy.t-bol cycle. The latter may give me less gains but in realist terms i am more likely to be able to retain majority gains whereas with test cycle due to past experience i am not likely to keep gains. Its a reasonable and logical argument based on my body. You big ego getting in the way of helping someone ? WTF are you rambling on about i just asked you for simple help. As for standards of living, what mean is that big guys tend to have a low standard of living in the sense that they are retards that spend there days doing nothing much aside from earning a little money and hitting the gym i see no great contribution to humanity or even there own existence just tools. I am being reasonable just because i want to do oral cycle does not mean i am not ready lol i have done a test/deca cycle so your argument fails. You spend time to respond to these arguments lol but you couldn't spend a few minutes responding to my original question lol that's what i mean by egotistical retards, must be low self esteem.

just to make you shut your mouth here is my diet

8 egg whites
1 cup oats
1 cup milk
1 scoop whey
cod liver oil
Multi vitmain

MET RX MRS

Two chicken breasts
bowl vegetable
flax seed oil

Brown rice
Curry
1 scoop protein shake
banana
BCAA

Training

2 oranges
2 scoops Whey (isolate)
Milk
Bowl Brown Pasta

Can tuna
Milk
Casein protein
Primrose oil
Multi vitamin

Night snacks-Nuts
Zinc

I hope that satisfied your little puny ego you ****

Great mentality there. Im sure it will help. I have not offered advise because i dont feel like you should run that cycle. Why would i go against my own opinions.

By the way your diet is not good at all. You are consuming 5 shakes a day.

Good luck getting help when you bash people because they dont tell you what you want to hear.

Im out. Maybe you will listen when more guys tell you the same

[iraqiwarrior]

bro why you using foul words at him he has not said anything mean even to you... but if you want to do cycle test should be in it and 2 oral might be hard on ur liv bro tbol will def not put in as much water weight

[Bonaparte]

Op, I don't even know where to begin on how much of a douche you're coming off as, so instead I'll just mention this: stop putting everything in bold. It's almost as bad as those idiots that type everything in caps.

[Bertuzzi]

What makes you think that your diet is any better then mines. You have no grounds to make this assumption so cut the crap. Im taking AS because i want to put on gains (duh) but proportionately at a slow controlled rate and that's what i learned from my past cycle. to much gains require dedication to maintain and im not a meat-head in some lower end job or wannabe athlete trying to seek attention with my huge build when i can barely afford food LOL. i am taking a degree in physics and anticipating a well paying job in private sector then i can afford to get big whilst not worrying about my wardrobe and maintaining weight. This is what makes me sick about AS users there so pathetically pretentious WTF are you going to achieve by getting big your standard of life would decrease and fall into routine trust me i know i did it for 2 years and i regret it. i am being reasonable and making the best of all possible worlds

Woooooooooowwwww... I can't believe anyone is going to continue helping you after this bullshit.... Noles is right... and what does your job have to do with anything?? Don't brag because you might make $50 000 a year.... wow.... Is that a lot of money or something??

[cobra305]

OP Noles was simply trying to help you and prevent you from wasting your money on a cycle when you do not want to get to big.
It is obvious to me he just wants to make sure you will still fit into your gucci, versace, and various other deigner clothes you have.
So stop being an arrogant a$$hole and take the advice given to you in stride or go away.

[Noles12]

Dont worry we are a bunch of tools have lower end jobs and can barely afford food because we are big or want to be big.

I dont give advice to people who blatantly disrespect me

[Bertuzzi]

Dont worry we are a bunch of tools have lower end jobs and can barely afford food because we are big or want to be big.

I dont give advice to people who blatantly disrespect me

I didn't know I could barely afford anything until I read this thread....

[noMuscles]

Woooooooooowwwww... I can't believe anyone is going to continue helping you after this bullshit.... Noles is right... and what does your job have to do with anything?? Don't brag because you might make $50 000 a year.... wow.... Is that a lot of money or something??

It's a lot when you are still living at your parents!

[vanduhl]

hey guys im about to go to my lower end job now but i just wanted to post and say that i hit the gym today and my all orals cycle is going well..ive gained 35 lbs of water weight that will undoubtdly go away rather quickly.


OP, i read somewhere up above that you lost ALL of your gains from your first cycle due to "unforeseen circumstances"......and you say you know how to diet...

Enlighten us on what those excuses...er i mean circumstances were...

Your not gonna get any quality advice if you continue to act liek you are...like a know it all.

[Noles12]

By the way OP is only about 22 according to his previous threads. Therefore i still wouldnt advise you to cycle because you are too young

[baseline_9]

Can a mod ban this W A N K E R !

[Big]

you need our help quickly, so your approach is to come here and behave like an immature judgmental prick? interesting tactic.

[dec11]

jez what an asshole, youve made your bed on this forum matey

[Nicotine]

you lost your gains because of your poor attitude..... sorry, but - fix your attitude first.

[BigBrucie]

you need our help quickly, so your approach is to come here and behave like an immature judgmental prick? interesting tactic.

well my judgement was based on my analysis of the other guys response. Not everyone wants Coleman mas (exaggerating). As soon as i said that "i don't want to be big" the guy just pounced. The forum is for help not to sort out personnel esteem issues. If you think your "it" because you want more gains then the second person then you need to wake up because the world does not follow you, people have different perspectives. As for the job thing...lets get real half guys on this forum are retards, big big big one word vocabulary regardless of other pursuits in life. Body-building is an art but more then half body-builders are not artist. I just want to put on a few pounds lean mass with low water. Oxy gives fast gains and you lose fast as well that's why i added in t-bol for the slow retainable gains but i don't think i can get hold of them so im thinking 50mg winny. Its going to kill my liver so im trying to get hold of injectable. All im asking is your opinion on the CYCLE not my personnel self. The other guy decided to give me his opinion on me, he knows nothing about me so it was all just assumption driven by his wild imagination. I am going to do the cycle regardless you can either help someone and minimise risks or be a ****ing prick like the other guy. Simple

[BigBrucie]

you lost your gains because of your poor attitude..... sorry, but - fix your attitude first.

I lost my gains because I was diagnosed with cancer

[BigBrucie]

Woooooooooowwwww... I can't believe anyone is going to continue helping you after this bullshit.... Noles is right... and what does your job have to do with anything?? Don't brag because you might make $50 000 a year.... wow.... Is that a lot of money or something??

LOL $50 000 a year where did you pull that figure out form ?
Im not bragging about my job because im currently finishing of my doctorate in physics (that makes me jobless unless you count teaching lectures to undergraduates). It is just that iv never been in such a false environment when men pretend there something other what they are. delusional and pathetic really. I came asking for advice and in return i expect advice directed towards my query not personal matters that Noel knows nothing about

[*Admin*]

I have locked this thread as I see it going nowhere... good day!


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