Changing workout split while on gear??

**zyzz** · 07-20-2010, 02:55 PM

So I was think should I change my work out plit when I start my cycle? Because when you are on gear your muscle recover faster right?

My current split is:
Monday: Chest
Tuesday: Back
Wendesday: Legs
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Arms

While on gear Should I got to this:
Monday,Thursday:Chest, Shoulders Tri's
Tuesday, Friday: Back and Bi's
Wendesday, Sat: Legs

So should I change my split???

**Neevor** · 07-20-2010, 03:27 PM

You need to check out the variable split training program in Bodybuilding, A Scientific Approach. I've had more gains with that system then any other.

Otherwise, yes, your body recovers faster. I like to take a break on the 5th and 10th weeks and work out less heavy and take more naps even when i'm on a cycle because your body gets tired. Its all about getting a feel for your body and what it needs. One of the easiest ways I use is to poke myself in the muscle group I wanna work. If it burns its not ready, if its just sore then its probably ready, if it doesnt hurt at all then I definately need to train it that day.

You should be workin out on Saturdays if nothin else too IMHO...

**zyzz** · 07-20-2010, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Neevor

You need to check out the variable split training program in Bodybuilding, A Scientific Approach. I've had more gains with that system then any other.

Otherwise, yes, your body recovers faster. I like to take a break on the 5th and 10th weeks and work out less heavy and take more naps even when i'm on a cycle because your body gets tired. Its all about getting a feel for your body and what it needs. One of the easiest ways I use is to poke myself in the muscle group I wanna work. If it burns its not ready, if its just sore then its probably ready, if it doesnt hurt at all then I definately need to train it that day.

You should be workin out on Saturdays if nothin else too IMHO...

Thanks man I will check it out.

**zyzz** · 07-20-2010, 08:52 PM

Bump for night members

**zyzz** · 07-21-2010, 01:57 AM

So I'm still confused....

**terraj** · 07-21-2010, 03:46 AM

How long have you been training? What kind of weight are you moving?

**thenextcutler** · 07-21-2010, 06:11 AM

If you're training heavy enough you dont need to hit a muscle more than once a week. I'm mid cycle and I did 14 sets of chest and 10 sets of tris yesterday all at max effort, there is no f'in way I will be doing chest tomoro or the next couple days.

People who work out each muscle twice a week had better be taking a crap load of gear and food and also split up the work out twice a day napping inbetween.

just fyi, the above points (like most of the stuff I say on here) is regurgitated from my ifbb pro trainer

**thenextcutler** · 07-21-2010, 06:13 AM

The training split you are on is awesome, and you will get huge doing that. Unless you are unemployed, stepping it up will probably burn you out.

**terraj** · 07-21-2010, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by thenextcutler

If you're training heavy enough you dont need to hit a muscle more than once a week. I'm mid cycle and I did 14 sets of chest and 10 sets of tris yesterday all at max effort, there is no f'in way I will be doing chest tomoro or the next couple days.

People who work out each muscle twice a week had better be taking a crap load of gear and food and also split up the work out twice a day napping inbetween.

just fyi, the above points (like most of the stuff I say on here) is regurgitated from my ifbb pro trainer

Bold is bullshit.

I have done many splits and the most productive I have done was high intensity, low volume, high frequency.

**Neevor** · 07-21-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by terraj

Bold is bullshit.

I have done many splits and the most productive I have done was high intensity, low volume, high frequency.

I have also done well with training muscle groups twice a week depending on how heavy and how intensely I am working. I train my calves no less than every 4 days and I think I average every 2.5 days with them. Back and legs on the other hand... They take a lot longer to recover. Even from a light work out (say 8 sets of 12 at 50% of my max, nice and easy) I have to give em 2 days of rest between and if I go hard they need more like 5 days.

**CoolStroybro** · 07-21-2010, 12:44 PM

You shouldn't design your own routine. There are many tested hypertrophy and strength programs. Why do you want to invent the wheel ?? Read about HST , 5x5 stronglifts ,P/RR/S ,Max-OT and tons more.

**CanYouDigIt** · 07-21-2010, 12:53 PM

I tryed working out twice a day, and if you workout at full potential and get your weights higher everytime, your muscles will be able to coop, but the rest won't be able to,

my forearms felt like they had been in a grinder, and I pulled 2-3 ligaments in my shoulder because sadly your shoulder is almost used in everything you do and I overworked it.

**Neevor** · 07-22-2010, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt

...my forearms felt like they had been in a grinder, and I pulled 2-3 ligaments in my shoulder because sadly your shoulder is almost used in everything you do and I overworked it.

Use straps. Takes the pressure off your Forearms for heavier lifts.

Unless you are actually hitting shoulders too often pulling ligaments in your shoulders is probably a result of poor technique and form rather than actual over training. Just off the top of my head I know a ton of dudes have poor form on curls and use their front delts to cheat the weight up. Every movement should be controlled. Arny rarely lifted with heavier than 50lb dumb bells for biceps even though he was known for huge arms. He focused entirely on form.