another GYNO question . . . . ??

[richtries]

Stats:

5'10/11
180lbs
10%

Cycle:

Test 125/wk
NPP 350/wk
adex 0.25 eod
HCG 250iu/2xwk

Run a few test only cycles previously and just used nolva as and when I thought my nips were tender/sensitive, but this time thought I'd incorporate an ai as it is recommended.

I'm currently in week two, and i've noticed my nips are a little tender/sensitive, my right one seems a tiny bit puffy compared to my left, and I'm also getting a little bit of pain from my right side, not all localised to ny nip though. Not sure if some of this is in my head . . . but have upped the adex to 0.5 ed and started nolva 20mg ed. Any suggestions welcome here?

Now I'm concerned about prolactin also, though I thought it was unlikely at that dose, I have prami on hand just didn't want to be taking soo many ancillaries, should I wait it till the extra adex stabilises? Is there anything else I could look at to distinguish where the sides are coming from . . . I have some facial bloat also? Libido/sex perf seem fine.

Sorry to bore you.

[richtries]

tingling in both nips now guys, help!

was going to start prami tonight but i haven't got any sexual sides which is whats swinging back to estrogen. . . .

[Nicotine]

only 125mg of test a week? why so low?!

im wondering if it's your body out of balance due to such a low dose?.... is it one single injection every 7 days, or split across the week?

either way, 125mg/week is horrible - my HRT dose is 200mg/week...

[richtries]

only 125mg of test a week? why so low?!

im wondering if it's your body out of balance due to such a low dose?.... is it one single injection every 7 days, or split across the week?

either way, 125mg/week is horrible - my HRT dose is 200mg/week...

split injections . . . its approx double the dose that the body produces naturally so how is that horrible? hrt doses range between 100-150 usually I have read . . . .

[HawaiianPride.]

AI could be bunk. Perhaps giving the Prolactin drug a go.

[richtries]

AI could be bunk. Perhaps giving the Prolactin drug a go.

ai is from lion so sure its ok. I only ran it a week at 0.25mg eod before gyno symptoms started, perhaps not enough.

Whats confusing me is it seems to be from prolactin but I still have libido and good sexual performance.

Also, my face is bloated and I didn't think that could be a result of the npp, but high estrogen, but such a low dose of test . . . I don't know!?

[HawaiianPride.]

What type of Test are you running? As a matter of fact, it really doesn't matter what Test your using. Your dosage is so low, bloat would be almost impossible.

Bloat is usually uncommon from NPP given your diet is in check.

Diet can alter how much bloat you receive as well.

As said earlier, give the Prami a shot.

[richtries]

What type of Test are you running? As a matter of fact, it really doesn't matter what Test your using. Your dosage is so low, bloat would be almost impossible.

Bloat is usually uncommon from NPP given your diet is in check.

Diet can alter how much bloat you receive as well.

As said earlier, give the Prami a shot.

yeah maybe sodium little high. cheers buddy, just swallowed .25mg of prami, see how that affects me if the sides are not too bad then i'll prob do another .25 before bed, then start on 0.5 as from tomo . . . squirting milk would freak me out I think!

[HawaiianPride.]

Squeeze them to make sure you aren't lactating. Check your shirts from time to time. You could spot in front of people and not even know.

Good luck on your situation. Keep us informed. And watch that sodium.

[Nicotine]

when you take 125mg/test a week, you dont get 125mg due to the weight of the ester...

im at 200mg/week, and it keeps me in the upper range of normal.

why bother putting your body through all of this for essentially nothing, or very little at all?

[richtries]

when you take 125mg/test a week, you dont get 125mg due to the weight of the ester...

im at 200mg/week, and it keeps me in the upper range of normal.

why bother putting your body through all of this for essentially nothing, or very little at all?

7lb gains whilst on calorie deficient diet, strength through the roof - broke pb's in the gym already, increased vascularity . . . and only two weeks in, hardly little at all my friend.

I realise that my dose of 125 will not replicate 125 inside the body, but it will still be above normal levels. If not then it must be the deca that has given me raised libido, and we both know that is highly unlikely since I have already been shown to be sensitive to prolactin elevation.

[Nicotine]

placebo effect......

long estered test doesnt fire up instantly within 2 weeks or less.....

[richtries]

placebo effect......

long estered test doesnt fire up instantly within 2 weeks or less.....

I think your missing something buddy, might want to read my original post again (properly). I'm running NPP which is a short ester, so active within days.

Anyway, I've ran test cycles before (long estered) where most of my gains have come in the first couple of weeks . . .

[richtries]

anymore opinions?

As it stands I am on nolva, adex & prami (started this afternoon), you can imagine what my gym session was like tonight, was like a zombie plus aching joints from the adex.

Would like to drop the nolva and just run adex at .25 . . . though not sure I have removed all the circulating estrogen yet. Will ramp the prami up to .5 soon as I feel ready and run that the whole way through.

[Igifuno]

I would drop the nolv only when the sensitivity subsides..then continue with the other compounds. Stay concious of it.. I think the increase in the adex may have done the trick if you would have given it some more time.

[richtries]

I would drop the nolv only when the sensitivity subsides..then continue with the other compounds. Stay concious of it.. I think the increase in the adex may have done the trick if you would have given it some more time.

Prami seems to have done the trick, can't even feel the left one today, right is still a little sensitive though . . . prob right about the adex, is the prob with ai's though they don't act quick enough. Prob do a few more days of nolva at 10mg ed and then continue with the adex at 0.25 ed and prami 0.25 ed right through till pct.

[HawaiianPride.]

Glad to hear side effects are subsiding. My advice did the trick, holla.

[richtries]

Glad to hear side effects are subsiding. My advice did the trick, holla.

yeah cheers buddy, trying to get the salt intake down as well, moonface!

basically eliminates any tin or packeted foods doesn't it, sucks a bit.

[freakinhuge]

so it looks like prami, nolva and adex did the job, will have to give that combo a try next time.

[richtries]

so it looks like prami, nolva and adex did the job, will have to give that combo a try next time.

my ancillary stack is more complex and the dosages more significant than my ACTUAL stack! ha

will be dropping the nolva tomo I hope