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08-04-2010, 11:50 AM #1Junior Member
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1st Sustanon Cycle - Critique Please
I've taken a few pro-hormone cycles so far (Methyl-1-Alpha and X-Tren ) and have finally decided to take things to the next level. Stats: 5'8" 185 pounds ~10% body fat. Goal: Get to around 200 pounds and reduce body fat a little lower.
Cycle plan: How does this look? Am I missing anything (Hair Loss Pill, etc.)? Should I take the Arimaplex per my plan or ONLY use it if I start getting signs of gyno? Should I wait 2 or 3 weeks before starting PCT after my last injection? I have some Oxandroplex on hand and was wondering whether or not I should use it during this cycle or not? If so, what weeks and how much per week? I would consider this a bulk cycle although I would like to gain lean muscle mass, lose a little fat, and look ripped for Halloween (My cycle ends the Monday before Halloween weekend ... I'm considering going as The Ultimate Warrior!). I'll be following a strict diet.
Week 1-17 4 Pills ED CEL Cycle Assist
Week 3-8 90/120/120/90/90/60mg ED CEL X-Tren
Week 3-14 150mg EOD Sus4fifty
Week 3-14 0.5mg EOD Anastrozole (Arimaplex)
Week 3-16 250iu E3D HCG
Week 17-22 75/50/50/50/25mg ED Clomiphene Citrate
Week 17-22 20/20/20/20/20mg ED Tomixifen Citrate
Week 17-22 1000mg ED Tribulus
Week 17-22 3 grams ED Vitamin C
Week 17-22 5/5/5/5/4 Pills ED PCT Assist
Diet plan: This is ~ 40/40/20 Protein/Carb/Fat ratio and is 2,718 Calories according to Livestrong.com. I have a really hard time eating a lot and I get full easily (acid reflux discease) so I'm not sure if I can take in this many calories or more but I'm shooting for the following plan. There's also no way I can drink 8 cups of water per day because it doesn't pass through very quickly, makes me full, and then I cannot eat anything (I probably only drink 3-4 cups per day). I take in ~ 2,000 calories a day or slightly less and maintain the same weight. Hopefully the additional 700 calories per day is enough to get me where I want to be. I'm curious how many more calories I'll need to take in after the cycle to maintain my gains.
8:00AM - 1/2 Ultimate Nutrition Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer
- 1 Cup Lactaid Milk
- 6 Hard Boiled Eggs
- 15 Almonds
10:00AM - 1/2 Ultimate Nutrition Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer
- 1 Cup Lactaid Milk
- 3 Hard Boiled Eggs
12:00PM - 1 Atlantic Salmon Fillet or Chicken Breast
- 10 Pieces Asparagus
- 15 Almonds
- 3 Hard Boiled Eggs
3:00PM - 1/2 Ultimate Nutrition Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer
- 1 Cup Lactaid Milk
6:00PM - 1 Tyson Frozen Chicken Breast or Atlantic Salmon
- 10 Pieces Asparagus
- 6 Hard Boiled Eggs
- 1 Medium Bannana
8:00PM - 1 ABB Mass Recovery, Grape
- 2 Tbsp Reeses Peanut Butter
Workout plan: How many sets per body part should I be doing while on cycle?? Also, I'm wondering whether or not I should do each body part once per week or twice per week with one heavy day and one light day? I seen 3 buddies who came in the gym to workout together the other day and they all looked like they were on cycle (pretty ripped and big veins popping out like a body builder). They kept doing 75lb. weighted dips in between everything that they did. I swear they had to have done 20+ sets of dips and never wore out even after incline bench, flies, tricep extensions, etc. They all had huge arms so perhaps extreme amount of sets is key to get big or is that many sets dangerous and overkill? Should I be going for a crazy amount of sets to pump the muscles to their fullest or average # of sets with slow decline and 2-3 second hard squeezes at the end of each rep? I'm also concerned about minimizing damage caused to the heart while on cycle so I'm wondering if I should avoid cardio?? I'd like to do some jumprope to get a little cardio and hit the calves a bit but don't want my heart growing or getting damaged.
Monday - Chest, Abs, Calves
- Flat Cable Flies - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Incline DB Press - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Decline Cable Flies - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Wide Decline BB Press - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Incline Cable Flies - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Dumbell Pullover - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Machine Ab Crunch - 5 sets x20, 15, 10, 8, 6
- Abs Leg Raises - 3 sets x10, 8, 6
- Calve Extensions - 5 sets x12, 12, 10, 8, 6 (Really lacking and need some growth)
Tuesday - Back, Biceps
- Wide grip pulldowns - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Close grip pulldowns - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Seated Cable rows - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- T-Bar Row - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Deadlifts - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Hyperextensions - 3 sets x10, 10, 10
- Incline Curls - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Hammer Curls - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Concentration Curls - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Reverse Forearm Curls - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Forearm Curls - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
Wednesday - Abs, Calves
- Machine Ab Crunch - 5 sets x20, 15, 10, 8, 6
- Abs Leg Raises - 3 sets x10, 8, 6
- Calve Extensions - 5 sets x12, 12, 10, 8, 6
Thursday - Shoulders, Triceps, Traps
- DB shoulder press - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Side Lateral Raises - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Front Lateral Raises - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Rear Lateral Raises - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Reverse grip pushdowns - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Skull crushers - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Elbows in Dips - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Upright rows - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Shrugs - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
Friday - Legs, Abs, Calves
- Leg Extensions - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Leg Curls - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Squats - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Lunges - 3 sets x12, 8, 6
- Machine Ab Crunch - 5 sets x20, 15, 10, 8, 6
- Abs Leg Raises - 3 sets x10, 8, 6
- Calve Extensions - 5 sets x12, 12, 10, 8, 6Last edited by bugsysiegals; 08-04-2010 at 11:58 AM.
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08-04-2010, 12:01 PM #2Junior Member
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Damnit ... how do I make my text above more table like? I tried HTML but it just showed up the tags in plain text.
Anyways, I started this cycle Monday. I wanted to get this posted earlier but have been super busy with everything. I did my first shot Monday night and it went well. The following day at work I couldn't even do a leg extension from my chair and it felt like someone winded up and socked me in the leg as hard as they could. I massaged the entire leg throughout the day and by the time I left work it barely hurt. I woke up today and it was sore again but not as bad. Hopefully every shot is not like this otherwise I don't know how I can ever do a leg workout!! Next shot is tonight ... I'm psyched!
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08-04-2010, 12:22 PM #3
How old are you?
Man.. right off the bat that diet blows. If you do magically get to 200lbs on that diet, it will be solely from your cycle and you will absolutely lose most of what you've gained.
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08-04-2010, 01:21 PM #4Junior Member
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Ahh, forgot that in the stats, 33. Thanks for the insight ... What would you recommend as a good diet?
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08-04-2010, 01:33 PM #5
Something that does not solely rely on shakes/supplements. If your goal is to get up to 200lbs and stay there, you'll need to do something about those macros. Looks like your eating maintenance level without doing any calculation.
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08-04-2010, 01:43 PM #6Junior Member
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Before starting this cycle I monitored my diet on that website and I was only around 2,000 calories. Even though the website said I needed more for maintenance, I've maintained the same weight for a long time on the same calorie intake. I figured maybe I just have a slower metabolism at my age.
I wasn't taking the weight gainer shakes at that time. I just figured they were the only way I could get my calories up much higher since I have a hard time eating tons of food. If I do mostly food it doesn't add up as high as what I've listed. Perhaps I'll have to settle for a very lean 185-190 if I can't eat enough.Last edited by bugsysiegals; 08-04-2010 at 04:51 PM.
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08-05-2010, 07:53 AM #7Junior Member
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Any advice on the Anavar , Arimadex, diet, workout, etc?
Did 2nd inject last night and was so excited I forgot to switch from the 20g to the 23g needle after drawing it up! Surprisingly I don't feel any pain in that quad yet. I used a heating pad last night and this morning so hopefully that's the key to eliminate the pain.
Also ordered grapeseed oil from researchsupply.net which I heard takes all the pain away if u add some to each shot. Should it already be sterile?Last edited by bugsysiegals; 08-05-2010 at 07:56 AM.
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