Clen and Benadryl

[Farhan]

SO im thinking about switching up my clen cycle a notch

im 6'1 200 pounds. Not sure body fat percentage

Ive used clen for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off before with this routine and got good results

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs

plus 200-400mg potassium and 5 grams taurine

I wanna try and go on for 3 weeks and i want to introduce Benadryl my third week

How much Benadryl should I be taking it and when is the best time to take it?

Also, should I increase my mcg's since im going an extra week?

Any help would be muchly appricated

[MACHINE5150]

Per "Anabolics 2009":

When using the drug (off-label) for physique-or performance-enhancing purposes, bodybuilders and athletes generally tailor their dosage and cycling of this product based on personal sensitivity to its benefits and side effects. To accomplish this, one often begins a cycle by taking one or two tablets per day, and gradually increasing the dosage every third day by one half to 1 tablet until a desired dosage range is established. At peak therapy some users can tolerate as many as 6-8 tablets per day (120-160mcg). Given the potency and potential for serious side effects, however, any dosage outside of the normal therapeutic range should be approached with an even greater level of caution.

The drug will usually elevate the body temperature shortly after therapy is initiated.The rise in temperature is commonly .5 to 1 degree, sometimes a little more.

To be clear, the athletic benefits of this drug will only last for a limited time and then diminish, largely due to beta-receptor downregulation. By most accounts clenbuterol hydrochloride seems to work well for approximately 4 to 6 weeks. During this period, users generally monitor their body temperature on a regular basis. We are given some level of assurance that clenbuterol hydrochloride is working by the temperature elevation. Once the temperature drops back to normal, receptor downregulation has probably diminished the efficacy of the drug. At this point increasing the dosage is usually not regarded as effective, and instead clenbuterol hydrochloride is discontinued for a period of no less than 4-6 weeks.

So looks to me you can take it as high as you are able to handle it.. but keep an eye on your body temp cause once it drops back to 98.6 degrees discontinue it for however long you were on for in order to give your recpetors a chance to revive..

Not to sure about the Benedryol or what it would be used for

[TTFU]

Benadryl has mixed reviews on the success rate. Just get some ketotifen!

[spoken_truth]

ya i was gonna say, i think benadryl is very person dependant but id just get some keto too

[supersetman]

yea get some keto, worked better and will help you sleep, no need to take time off clen when using keto.

[Farhan]

Im already on my second week of clen and by the time i order keto and receive it in Canada ill be finished my 3 week cycle

I cannot get keto in Canada within the next few days
I have benadryl and lots of it, ill be starting on Tuesday. When is the best time to take it and how much should I be taking
Thanks

[ocnorb40]

May want to review:
[URL="http://forums.steroid .com/showthread.php?t=420359&highlight=benadryl+clen /URL]

[HenryHill]

May want to review:
[URL="http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=420359&highlight=benadryl+clen/URL]

The thread concludes that they both work.

[Minion0812]

I tried the benadryl theory and it was completely useless! I had no effects of clen whatsoever in my system and was just pissing away the money. I didn't want to do the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off method and also listened to a couple of great threads that preached just take benadryl every third week and you can stay on. Never worked for my system and am now trying the 2wk on 2wk off. good luck everyones system is different i guess.

[HawaiianPride.]

For Ben I would do 12.5mg before bed on your days off. Keto 2mg.

[Neevor]

For Ben I would do 12.5mg before bed on your days off. Keto 2mg.

Hmm... i've found that the benedryl only works for me if I take 50mgs every night for a week. Anything less and my body temp drops slowly in the following weeks.

To the OP, if you are gonna run it for 3 weeks with benedryl in the third why not just run it for 5 since the third week will bring you back to normal? Just keep monitoring your body temp in the morning..

[magic32]

Hmm... i've found that the benedryl only works for me if I take 50mgs every night for a week.

Copy that!
The theory is that since Bena cleanses the beta-receptors of histamine build up, that it would also cleanse them of everything else absorbed at that receptor's level, i.e. Clen , Ephedra, etc.

I too run Bena at 50mgs ED for a week, and although I'm slower to awaken in the morning, it without question improves my Eph absorption as evidenced/measured by substantially greater warming sensation and longer burning synthetic energy than prior to its administration.

Signed,

A confirmed believer and subscriber to the Benadryl regimen

[JBarron]

I've been taking 120mcg a day and haven't been feeling shiit, no shaking, I feel no body temp increase, nothing.

Also I should mention I messed up my very first dose and accidentally took 200mcg, got kind of shaky and a fast heart beat but nothing not tolerable.

I'm wandering if messing up my first dose like that has any effect on why 120mcg isn't doing anything for me.

[HawaiianPride.]

I don't think 1 dose would hinder your tolerance to that degree.

[JBarron]

I don't think 1 dose would hinder your tolerance to that degree.

I didn't think so either, but it seems that I only felt "something" from 200mcg dose.

Is that even safe to take 200mcg of clen a day?

[HawaiianPride.]

For most it isn't. But some aren't as sensitive as others. If you aren't feeling much, taper up another 20mcg so on and so fourth. Assess how you feel accordingly. I know a few guys that have to go above 160mcg, it's not an unusual thing.

[JBarron]

For most it isn't. But some aren't as sensitive as others. If you aren't feeling much, taper up another 20mcg so on and so fourth. Assess how you feel accordingly. I know a few guys that have to go above 160mcg, it's not an unusual thing.

Ok, thanks for the info man. What are some of the things I should feel from a dose that is working effectively?

Should I feel the shakiness, the body temp increase, etc.?

[HawaiianPride.]

Those are two signs. Excessive sweating, BP fluctuation, insomnia and cramps are all indicators of Clenbuterol that exist that you would obviously not want to experience. Make sure your supplementing with Taurine/Potassium/Magnesium/Calcium and something to combat sleep if that's an issue. Stay really hydrated especially if your increasing your dose.

[lifterjaydawg]

200 mcgs is a very big dose for clen , if you are sure your clen is legit then its ok, everyone responds differently, just be careful with that high a dose.

[JBarron]

Those are two signs. Excessive sweating, BP fluctuation, insomnia and cramps are all indicators of Clenbuterol that exist that you would obviously not want to experience. Make sure your supplementing with Taurine/Potassium/Magnesium/Calcium and something to combat sleep if that's an issue. Stay really hydrated especially if your increasing your dose.

Yeah I drink tons of water throughout the day, I take a decent multi, idk how much taurine or potassium it has (if any). But yeah, I wake up, eat my first breakfast, ride my bike to work, take my 120mcg in the bathroom, and I feel literally nothing all day, if anything I get a bit sleepy at my desk. Sleep hasn't been a problem either, I go to bed around 10:30 easily.

So idk, I'll up the dose 20mcg each day and see what happens.

200 mcgs is a very big dose for clen, if you are sure your clen is legit then its ok, everyone responds differently, just be careful with that high a dose.

I got my clen from ar-r up above and I've heard good things about it so I'm fairly sure it's legit. Your right I agree 200mcgs is a big dose, that was my first dose I took (on accident) and that was the only time I felt any effects from the clen, so idk. If I have to take that big of a dose to benefit I'm not sure if it'd be a benefit or not lol

[Neevor]

I didn't think so either, but it seems that I only felt "something" from 200mcg dose.

Is that even safe to take 200mcg of clen a day?

Hmm, yes I was shocked to even see you on here the next day considering that dose. I just added you to my prayers after reading the post and come to find out you only felt "something"!? This strikes me as very strange bro. I usually dose at around 60 to 80mcgs a day and never go over 100. A lot of the research I've done shows that it isnt any better at those higher doses for fat burning.

So what makes me wonder is back a year ago I accidentally dosed myself at 200mcgs and I thought I was gonna f#cking die! I felt so damn awful I'd honestly rather take a kick to nuts then go through that again. So the fact that you only felt "something" is very strange to me...

[LouHulk]

I got my clen from ar-r up above and I've heard good things about it so I'm fairly sure it's legit. Your right I agree 200mcgs is a big dose, that was my first dose I took (on accident) and that was the only time I felt any effects from the clen, so idk. If I have to take that big of a dose to benefit I'm not sure if it'd be a benefit or not lol

My lab rats hands shake all day off of AR-R 's clen . My lab rats take a dose from 80-120mcg. It's good stuff and you should be feeling something off the clen at dosages below 100mcg. Lab rats have been shedding the fat also in the two weeks. AR-R clen is gtg not sure why you can't feel it working.

[Neevor]

My lab rats hands shake all day off of AR-R's clen. My lab rats take a dose from 80-120mcg. It's good stuff and you should be feeling something off the clen at dosages below 100mcg. Lab rats have been shedding the fat also in the two weeks. AR-R clen is gtg not sure why you can't feel it working.

This is hilarious. Made my lab rats laugh out loud.

[JBarron]

Well I gave my lab rats took 140mcg today and they didn't feel a single thing from it!! Idk what to do.

I was running ec stack before the clen , you think that has anything to do with me not gettin much from the clen?

[LouHulk]

Well I gave my lab rats took 140mcg today and they didn't feel a single thing from it!! Idk what to do.

I was running ec stack before the clen, you think that has anything to do with me not gettin much from the clen?

Pretty sure Ephedrine will downregulate your receptors and I think they are the same ones that clen uses. So if I'm right then yes, your receptors need to recover then you should feel effects of Clen again.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Neevor]

Well I gave my lab rats took 140mcg today and they didn't feel a single thing from it!! Idk what to do.

I was running ec stack before the clen, you think that has anything to do with me not gettin much from the clen?

EC stack? As in effedrin clen stack? If so then yes thats your problem. The effedrin downgraded your Beta2 receptors and they havent come back. Benedryl...

[JBarron]

EC stack? As in effedrin clen stack? If so then yes thats your problem. The effedrin downgraded your Beta2 receptors and they havent come back. Benedryl...

Ephedrine and caffeine. Ok, well I let about a week week and half pass before I started the clen , but I guess it's possible they aren't back yet. Well shiit that sucks, I wasted all the clen. Guess I'll stop using it for now, maybe save it for pct after my next cycle.

[LouHulk]

Ephedrine and caffeine. Ok, well I let about a week week and half pass before I started the clen, but I guess it's possible they aren't back yet. Well shiit that sucks, I wasted all the clen. Guess I'll stop using it for now, maybe save it for pct after my next cycle.

Use a a nightly dose of 50-100mg of benedryl for the first week off the clen /ephedrine. That will help upregulate your receptors. Wait another week and you will be gtg.

[Neevor]

Use a a nightly dose of 50-100mg of benedryl for the first week off the clen/ephedrine. That will help upregulate your receptors. Wait another week and you will be gtg.

This is not entirely accurate. I dont think you need to wait another week.

First, dont do ephedrin if you have clen . ephedrin is BS. I'll let you do the research on why but I'll get you started, its not a selective beta agonist and it has a much longer half life. Why does that mean it sucks?

I've run clen for 9 weeks straight and so have a lot of other members here. Every third week take the Benedryl at 50mgs to 100mgs (you figure out what dose works for you) without stopping the clen. I take 30 to 40mcgs clen when I wake, 30 to 40mcgs with lunch, and then 50mgs benedryl before bed.

[JBarron]

Use a a nightly dose of 50-100mg of benedryl for the first week off the clen/ephedrine. That will help upregulate your receptors. Wait another week and you will be gtg.

This is not entirely accurate. I dont think you need to wait another week.

First, dont do ephedrin if you have clen . ephedrin is BS. I'll let you do the research on why but I'll get you started, its not a selective beta agonist and it has a much longer half life. Why does that mean it sucks?

I've run clen for 9 weeks straight and so have a lot of other members here. Every third week take the Benedryl at 50mgs to 100mgs (you figure out what dose works for you) without stopping the clen. I take 30 to 40mcgs clen when I wake, 30 to 40mcgs with lunch, and then 50mgs benedryl before bed.

Alright I'll start the benadryl then. I was never running ephedrine with clen, I've read numerous times that, that could be dangerous.

[JBarron]

Bumpin this for more info. I've been taking 75mg benadryl every night before bed, for the past 4 days.

Idk when to try the clen out again though lol

You think after two weeks of the benadryl each night i should give it a go again?

[LouHulk]

Bumpin this for more info. I've been taking 75mg benadryl every night before bed, for the past 4 days.

Idk when to try the clen out again though lol

You think after two weeks of the benadryl each night i should give it a go again?

It won't kill you to try the clen again after day 7 of benedryl. Worst thing that happens is you have no effect from it and you need to wait longer. I'd personally wait a tad longer to really get those receptors clean but hey try it. I'm on my 4th week on Clen. I still have all the sides almost as bad as when I started. Benedryl worked for me...I took it during the entire third week and it obviously allowed the effects to be felt after almost four weeks. I'll probably run another 4-5 weeks before I quit.

[JBarron]

It won't kill you to try the clen again after day 7 of benedryl. Worst thing that happens is you have no effect from it and you need to wait longer. I'd personally wait a tad longer to really get those receptors clean but hey try it. I'm on my 4th week on Clen. I still have all the sides almost as bad as when I started. Benedryl worked for me...I took it during the entire third week and it obviously allowed the effects to be felt after almost four weeks. I'll probably run another 4-5 weeks before I quit.

Aight cool, yeah I'll probably take the benadryl for two weeks, I'm also taking an anti oxidant, I don't if that'll help get receptors back to normal, but anti-oxidants make me feel good so I like em lol.

[LouHulk]

Aight cool, yeah I'll probably take the benadryl for two weeks, I'm also taking an anti oxidant, I don't if that'll help get receptors back to normal, but anti-oxidants make me feel good so I like em lol.

Is that you in the avatar? You look pretty ripped in the abs. Why are you taking Clen ? I'm around 20% bf right now is my main reason. you look well under 15%. btw Clen is pretty harsh...I get pretty bad cramps after the gym and I'm drinking plenty of water.

[JBarron]

Is that you in the avatar? You look pretty ripped in the abs. Why are you taking Clen? I'm around 20% bf right now is my main reason. you look well under 15%. btw Clen is pretty harsh...I get pretty bad cramps after the gym and I'm drinking plenty of water.

Yeah that's me after my first cycle, I'm not quite as cut up as that anymore, I've let the diet slip a bit since pct lol

I started running the clen about a week ago, and did not feel anything at all except for a dosing of 200mcg. I got a bit shaky and heart beat elevated, but anything under that I didn't feel shiiit.

So I was advised that my receptors are probably down from a previous ec stack. I do drink about 12+ bottles of water a day, so I keep water intake fairly high.

I was just going to run clen before my next cycle to get a bit cut up before I start eating like crazy.

[LouHulk]

Yeah that's me after my first cycle, I'm not quite as cut up as that anymore, I've let the diet slip a bit since pct lol

I started running the clen about a week ago, and did not feel anything at all except for a dosing of 200mcg. I got a bit shaky and heart beat elevated, but anything under that I didn't feel shiiit.

So I was advised that my receptors are probably down from a previous ec stack. I do drink about 12+ bottles of water a day, so I keep water intake fairly high.

I was just going to run clen before my next cycle to get a bit cut up before I start eating like crazy.

Cool man, I was really wondering cause if I looked like you in that avi I would not touch Clen.

[JBarron]

Cool man, I was really wondering cause if I looked like you in that avi I would not touch Clen.

Ha well thanks man, I was about 7-8% their, I'm probably 9-10% now, at least I feel like it compared to when I was on cycle lol.

[bigpapabuff]

I like using keto while on clen , works better than benadryl imo.

[JBarron]

I like using keto while on clen, works better than benadryl imo.

what does the keto do? Keep your receptors goin?