question: Can you gain 15-20pounds fast without water like with Anadrol and D-Bol?

**stevesh1974** · 08-13-2010, 08:11 PM

What's the best way to gain sizable muscle weight without a bunch of non-keepable water weight?

Honestly, how much actual retainable weight can you gain on gear in one cycle?

I am experienced with prohormones and prosteroids and I'm wondering if gear will be worth crossing over.

**Big** · 08-13-2010, 08:19 PM

in answer to the title, no.

**gymnerd** · 08-13-2010, 08:22 PM

Why are you in such a hurry?? There is no way to gain 20 lbs of lean muscle fast IMO. It takes time for the body to respond to the training and diet along with the hormones your using.

Fast=failure

Slow steady well planned approach=success-something to think about.

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-13-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by stevesh1974

What's the best way to gain sizable muscle weight without a bunch of non-keepable water weight? AI's, monitoring your diet (especially sodium), cardio, avoid excessive AAS doses, and staying hydrated.

Honestly, how much actual retainable weight can you gain on gear in one cycle? Assuming this is a first cycle we are referring to here, and provided dosing is sufficient, anywhere from 10 to 20lbs is common. This of course isn't all muscle, and will vary from individual to individual.

I am experienced with prohormones and prosteroids and I'm wondering if gear will be worth crossing over.

Bold.

Cosign Big.

**Nooomoto** · 08-14-2010, 01:42 PM

Steroids does not equal fast muscle gains.

**SuperBird** · 08-14-2010, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by stevesh1974

What's the best way to gain sizable muscle weight without a bunch of non-keepable water weight?

Honestly, how much actual retainable weight can you gain on gear in one cycle?

I am experienced with prohormones and prosteroids and I'm wondering if gear will be worth crossing over.

well, your question "whats the best way" to gain sizable muscle weight without so much water will get you the right answer if you just put that only.

tren /test/winny letro, arimidex , t3, clen . your retainable weight is how well you PCT in with the amount of muscle weight you put on (in your words).

**_ripp3d_** · 08-14-2010, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by stevesh1974

What's the best way to gain sizable muscle weight without a bunch of non-keepable water weight?

Honestly, how much actual retainable weight can you gain on gear in one cycle?

I am experienced with prohormones and prosteroids and I'm wondering if gear will be worth crossing over.

The faster you gain the weight the faster you'll lose it. With a proper diet in-check and a simple test cycle 15-20 lbs are not unheard. Why are you in such a hurry to gain this weight? You'd be better off gaining it slowly, that way you'd have a better chance of keeping all that weight.

**NVR2BIG1** · 08-14-2010, 06:13 PM

steroids dont make you grow, they simply place your body in the right environment to grow providing nutrition,recovery, and proper training is there. You can get 20 lbs off your first cycle, or you can get none. All depends on how hard you work for it and mostly your diet

**Half-Life 6** · 08-14-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by NVR2BIG1

steroids dont make you grow, they simply place your body in the right environment to grow providing nutrition,recovery, and proper training is there. You can get 20 lbs off your first cycle, or you can get none. All depends on how hard you work for it and mostly your diet

stop talking out your ass steroids alone do make you grow, also it does help you gain weight faster what the hell are you guys saying, 20 pounds first cycle good diet is wait i would aim for, jsut cause you gain it fast doesnt mean its gunna leave you fast, just maintain diet and you'll be good

**Big** · 08-14-2010, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Half-Life 6

stop talking out your ass steroids alone do make you grow, also it does help you gain weight faster what the hell are you guys saying, 20 pounds first cycle good diet is wait i would aim for, jsut cause you gain it fast doesnt mean its gunna leave you fast, just maintain diet and you'll be good

so if you take steroids while fasting every day you will grow?

**NVR2BIG1** · 08-14-2010, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Half-Life 6

stop talking out your ass steroids alone do make you grow, also it does help you gain weight faster what the hell are you guys saying, 20 pounds first cycle good diet is wait i would aim for, jsut cause you gain it fast doesnt mean its gunna leave you fast, just maintain diet and you'll be good

hahahahhahahahahahahahah,bwahahahhahahahaha. Your right dude, diet is wait we aim for, jsut go gain 20 lbs, what the hell we taklling about, what we gunna do? Git it how you want it boy!!